malatoi
Hello malatoi,
I have just compared the fingerprints of the APK version from Signal's website (‘danger zone’) with the version I have installed from Signal's repository (GitHub) and they are identical.
So we are obviously using the same version of the Signal app, but I don't see a menu for an update function in the app and this app has never updated itself or pointed out a new version for me to then manually trigger the update.
Very strange...
Yeah... no offense, but Android is like a toy for me. The lack of root already eliminates half the stuff I would want to do or need to do on a regular basis. The lack of any professional software is another big hit. No video editing, coding, CAD, photo editing and especially anything related to audio production makes Android (and other mobile OS'es) a big no-no. Even Apple tried to port their Pro apps to iPadOS and failed miserably.
Android (and everything iOS/iPadOS) is just very limited. You have basically no control over your system and the hardware and the cherry on top is the limited selection of professional software mentioned above. If you want to browse the web, watch some Netflix or read the news, you will be very satisfied. I for once will not ditch my desktop anytime soon.
Like this post if you bought a Pixel phone specifically to run GrapheneOS.
I feel the same when the "you are loading a different operating system" screen shows up, that's right! Just how I like it.
The Google logo bugged me the first time I booted the phone with GOS and it appeared, even though I knew it would.
Then I didn't mind it.
Now it gives me immense satisfaction to see it coming up and then being replaced by the GrapheneOS logo.
It feels like a victory every time. Like vengeance even!
Eagle_Owl Posteo can be used with FairEmail + OpenKeychain, no issues with their PGP auto-encryption
DeletedUser115 Recently I was thinking about the security of FairEmail github account / dev keys tho... In case their systems are compromized, we are screwed.
Install from fdroid and you are protected by it using fdroid signing keys. But note that ALL software installed has the same risk with compromised signing keys.
malatoi It does require the receiving application to be running in some manner -- foreground service is the best way to accomplish this, otherwise there is (a) no open connection for the server to send notifications along, and (b) nothing there to receive it.
Fakebook uses g's connection for their messages. g calls their implementation of push message delivery "FCM" for something like firebase cloud messaging. It works the same way as anyone else's implementation. Their software runs on the device, maintains a connection to their server, and delivers messages on behalf of others, while allowing them to collect data on at least some aspects of the data being delivered.
malatoi What a "push" notification means, is that the SERVER initiates a message to the CLIENT by utilizing an existing connection that was opened some time ago by the CLIENT.
IMAP, the protocol used to receive email, supports a persistent connection that the server will use to push messages to the client. Fairemail, using an IMAP connection to any server, will receive PUSH notifications.
To make that more explicitly clear; you ARE using push notifications.
Even though it is already solved for SgtSurehand, i am pretty happy with mailbox.org and posteo.de. Both are payed services, but come without advertisement and privacy features. I use them with FairEmail and get notifications for incoming emails, but they work with K9-mail as well.
Thank you for replies, appreciate your input. Going with Tutanota for reasons mentioned here https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/4669-email-providers-with-own-push-notifications/19
Solved for me
User2288 My experience is generally the opposite. I often find the GUI version of apps frustrating, as the functionality is often hidden away or missing. GUI apps, in addition to being generally clumsy and featureless, are typically more bloated and buggy as well. Conversely, with the command line apps can be easily explored and interacted with. It's easier to figure out what a program is doing and what it can do. Tip: most programs will take a man or --help argument if you get stumped.
I have to use Windows at work and I hate it. It's really bloated and unstable. It's easy enough to use, until you need to access a function that has been obfuscated away behind the GUI. It's like trying to sew with oven mitts on. And then when you try to look something up, the forums are all garbage and the help sites are just ad mines!
It will work fine on Fedora.
Just an update. I installed through a brave browser using Linux mint 20.1, and everything went flawlessly. Thank you guys, and thank you GOS-developers. You're all awesome and this OS is amazing.
/Frank
Get Google to whitelist the project.
