Revolut mobile finance - not supported on devices with custom firmware problem

de0u Have you red this? It seems a official answer by GrapheneOS...

We're going to be adding a toggle for blocking the Play Integrity API in a way that acts as if the service is currently down. We've found that many apps do not correctly use it and still allow using the app if it's unavailable because their service only has soft enforcement of the Play Integrity API. It's possible this will be enough to get Revolut working but we don't know at this point. They're going out of the way to try banning using alternate OSes and can upgrade that over time.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113737931425144006

cdflasdkesalkjfkdfkjsdajfd Have you [read] this?

Yes. That wouldn't be spoofing code in the sense of faking a result (it would be a non-result). And if it's implemented I'll be surprised if it works for more than three months. But my skepticism might turn out to be wrong!

RESOLVED. The current REVOLUT version of in Aurora detects graphenOS and does not let it run, this is a problem I hope the GrapheneOS people fix it because other apps can be updated and stop working in GrapheneOS.

To fix it, you only need to install the previous version 10.52.1

1. Uninstall the apps.
2. You install it from Aurora manually, giving it up to the points, and then to manual download, it will ask you for a version code, and you enter the code of the version 10.52.1 (at least this version has worked perfectly in grapheneOS, even without Google Services) the code is 1005304781

Cheers.

Jirafa And does that version actually let you sign in and use the app actively without forcing you to upgrade to a newer version? 10.52.1 is an even older version than 10.54, which is now blocked from being used after you have signed in.

And even if it does work now, it would be wise to not rely on it to keep working into the future. They are almost definitely going to ban older versions from being used to connect to their servers in the future.

fid02 Nope, looks like the old versions simply don't work.

Jirafa In the end, this is just an artificial extension of life. The machines still work but the brain has long been dead. How long will this work with old versions...

gethvi How can i downgrade an app in a secure way?

Jirafa We can't fix apps going out of the way to ban using GrapheneOS. It's not a technical problem or something missing on GrapheneOS. It's these apps using the Play Integrity API to ban using any aftermarket OS or device not certified by Google. It's highly anti-competitive and clearly illegal but happening anyway. Regulators and courts move slowly and don't have much technical knowledge. Google is trying to mask it as being for security purposes to justify the anti-competitive behavior. People shouldn't fall for it. Permitting a device with no security patches for 8 years but banning a far more secure OS than the most secure one they permit (stock Pixel OS) is clearly not a security-based decision. They provide no way for GrapheneOS to be permitted and most of what companies have to comply with to be certified is not security related but rather Google defending their monopolies and overall business interests.

Magic gethvi How can i downgrade an app in a secure way?

You can't do that without first uninstalling the app, because of Android's downgrade protection. The info you're replying to is outdated and Revolut now blocks using version 10.54 and probably older versions as well. The recent report of an even older version than that now suddenly working isn't clear.

GrapheneOS So what keeps you guys going?

It looks like you're staring at your fade away as we speak...

pirron4 overall, only a small number of apps are not working on GrapheneOS because of Play Integrity and more may follow, but it's hardly the end of the OS, so please don't act like it is.

As the project account has said, what Google is doing is illegal and the project is talking regulators in the EU. Here's a quote:

United States v. Google LLC (2020) recently found that Google's Android partner system and therefore the Play Integrity API based on it is illegal.

We're in active contact with the EU Commission about the Play Integrity API and are hopeful they're going to do something about it.

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other8026 overall, only a small number of apps are not working on GrapheneOS because of Play Integrity and more may follow, but it's hardly the end of the OS, so please don't act like it is.

As the project account has said, what Google is doing is illegal and the project is talking regulators in the EU. Here's a quote:

This is the Gordian knot that needs to be cut. But the mills of bureaucracy grind slowly, very slowly... so we have to wait and see what will be faster in the end: The bureaucracy or the app makers who will go for Play Integrity.
It certainly won't be or become the end of the project, but the critical mass of apps will contribute significantly to the future.
Sorry, that's not a black painting, but unfortunately you can't sugarcoat it either.

AlphaElwedritsch Sorry, that's not a black painting, but unfortunately you can't sugarcoat it either.

Sure. I was more responding to the "fad[ing] away" part of their comment. Not trying to sugarcoat anything. It's a problem, but not that bad.

No one's sugarcoating anything. Quite the opposite; it appears to me that many members in this community are determined to stay pessimistic, posting bleak predictions about the future of GrapheneOS across several threads – some even in threads they clearly haven't read and understood – simply to express their feelings of determined hopelesness. I've avoided interactions in these threads because I foresee responses akin to "suck it up, dude", "just give up", and "you're naïve for even thinking this is possible". If someone had given me such responses face-to-face in a discussion about the Play Integrity API, I would likely have burst out laughing at the absurdly frank and negative response. Here, I just close the thread because I feel sure there's more coming, and I'd rather engage with something constructive.

Justvan update here, I'm still pingpongingbwith revolut support. I think it's literally just AI I'm writing with. This company support is horrible.

I just want them to cancel my sub, I can't even do that anymore without logging in

Jirafa I have tried 10.52.1 on a fresh install and it's not working (update to the last version message is displayed just after set the account phone number)

other8026 overall, only a small number of apps are not working on GrapheneOS because of Play Integrity and more may follow, but it's hardly the end of the OS, so please don't act like it is.

As long as you have at least one of the "small numbers" that is a deal breaker, then that is a deal breaker. I am not dramatic or sensationalizing the topic. I assume it's on the minds of most if not all users. I might be wrong of course.

When I ask what keeps you going is to get the perspective of the developers. Clearly they know something that many of their users don't, which keeps them more optimistic.

It's a simple question. No intention of painting anything. Whatever the answer is, is for anyone to decide what that means to them.

pirron4 I have received an official answer from Revolut to my official complaint and the answer is, basically: "No, GrapheneOS is not supported and no plans to support it into the future".
The app is working fine (including the login process) in crDroid, that includes a workaround that resolves it (at least until May). It doesn't seem logical that the GrapheneOS developers don't include it.