Chat platforms

GrapheneOS

GrapheneOS has 3 main official chat platforms alongside the forum. You should consider to go along with the longer and more formal nature of the forum. Each of the chat platforms is bridged so you can choose you preferred platform:

Matrix requires you to choose a client and server, since it's a federated protocol comparable to email. Matrix is overall the most private option but it has major usability drawbacks including being fairly slow. Our main 2 Matrix rooms were recently bricked by Matrix bugs in the state resolution protocol which is why they're so small compared to the more niche rooms. The main room had over 15k people before getting bricked in November 2022 and over 13k before getting bricked again last month. This is why we added Discord as an option 12 days ago and overhauled the Telegram experience by merging it into a single group with Topics resembling a more primitive Discord experience. We previously weren't linking to Telegram on our site to encourage using Matrix over it but we've stopped trying to focus only on Matrix and we expect both Discord and Telegram to grow faster long term.

Nowediff

GrapheneOS Yeah, we got a few chat spots for ya. There's Discord, Telegram, and Matrix. Matrix needs a client and server pick, kinda like email. It's real private but can be slow sometimes. Had some hiccups with Matrix rooms but fixed things up. Discord's new, and Telegram got a makeover, so they're growing fast now.

christiee

GrapheneOS
i cant use element on phone
its unreadable due to the menu bar on left

riddlemethis

GrapheneOS I guess I'm going to have to ask why XMPP isn't in the list, and why it wasn't chosen over Matrix and Discord?

bayesian

Why not the simpleX group as well?

[deleted]

bayesian Its unrealistic for expecting them to be on every single platform.

admin

bayesian [deleted] It doesn't scale enough yet so it's not an option yet even if we had the resources to add another platform which we really don't.

mrtoo

bayesian There is an unofficial simpleX group. It is public and quite active.

lip

bayesian there's already a big group on simplex

Hat

An extension could be added to link the main chat Discord and this forum like https://discuss.flarum.org/d/17812-friendsofflarum-webhooks ?

grapheine

Telegram and discord both require a number to register, right?

[deleted]

grapheine You can sign up with Email on Discord I think

grapheine

[deleted] I tried. You can't verify by email, it was requiring a phone number. No thanks.

ve3jlg

I've read negative comments about Discord in privacy-related discussion groups. I'll pass for now.

treequell

grapheine I was able to create a Discord account with only an email address fine, so it sounds a bit hit and miss.

grapheine

treequell sorry! You're right. I was trying to create an account through an invite link for a service provider. I created one through discord.com and was able to verify through email!

other8026

Same here. I registered on my phone while connected to a well-known VPN and just provided a SimpleLogin email alias to register. I was never asked for a phone number. Stumbled across a thing in the settings that tells you what your account standing is, and my account has an "all good" standing.

other8026

christiee the menu bar with all the circular icons? That one should go away if you tap somewhere else. If it doesn't, that's an issue with Element, not GrapheneOS.

missing-root

christiee try schildichat, but what you mention is not normally occuring.

[deleted]

Simply comment that, whatever platform you choose, it becomes very difficult to follow a conversation when they respond to you from another because a lot of garbage appears introduced by the manager.
In my opinion you should choose a platform and use only one.

matchboxbananasynergy

[deleted] It sounds like you're referring to the bridge software being used. Currently, Discord is unique in that the experience there is significantly better. We initially had the bridge set up the way it is right now, but had to go back to the way it's done on other platforms due to some issues.

A community member has created a patch for the bridge software to fix these issues, so Discord is now back to using webhooks for the bridge. I encourage you to give the Discord side a shot (I believe you might already be in there) and see how you like it now.

[deleted]

matchboxbananasynergy It's very convenient to have it on Telegram, but I'll try it ;)

aiss

rvlt.gg Open source alternatives to Discord
session No cell phone number, no e-mail, three-hop network.
Matrix has no categories. All the information is crowded into one room.
Telegram. It requires a cell phone number to invade privacy.

Panda-na

aiss

Regarding you mention Revolt Chat. I checked it out, but it has absolutely no information about it. There's no "About-page", I found some kind of revolt wiki, but it is not accessible/the server is down. I found the wiki through web-search. It should be linked from the home page. I will never use a service that doesn't explain what it is. That's why I love GrapheneOS, it has the most comprehensive about page, FAQ, feature list, roadmap etc. I have ever seen. I never doubted supporting GrapheneOS since they seemed really solid.

GrapheneOS

aiss We have 7 chat channels, which are 7 separate rooms on Matrix. It's not all in one room.

missing-root

aiss session was very very problematic when I last used it. They store messages in a blockchain, which makes no sense. You cannot delete messages, in the past if you restored your profile (or got hacked) every message was appearing again.

Checkout SimpleX, that is a great piece of software