Chat platforms

other8026

Same here. I registered on my phone while connected to a well-known VPN and just provided a SimpleLogin email alias to register. I was never asked for a phone number. Stumbled across a thing in the settings that tells you what your account standing is, and my account has an "all good" standing.

grapheine

treequell sorry! You're right. I was trying to create an account through an invite link for a service provider. I created one through discord.com and was able to verify through email!

christiee

GrapheneOS
i cant use element on phone
its unreadable due to the menu bar on left

other8026

christiee the menu bar with all the circular icons? That one should go away if you tap somewhere else. If it doesn't, that's an issue with Element, not GrapheneOS.

missing-root

christiee try schildichat, but what you mention is not normally occuring.

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Simply comment that, whatever platform you choose, it becomes very difficult to follow a conversation when they respond to you from another because a lot of garbage appears introduced by the manager.
In my opinion you should choose a platform and use only one.

matchboxbananasynergy

[deleted] It sounds like you're referring to the bridge software being used. Currently, Discord is unique in that the experience there is significantly better. We initially had the bridge set up the way it is right now, but had to go back to the way it's done on other platforms due to some issues.

A community member has created a patch for the bridge software to fix these issues, so Discord is now back to using webhooks for the bridge. I encourage you to give the Discord side a shot (I believe you might already be in there) and see how you like it now.

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matchboxbananasynergy It's very convenient to have it on Telegram, but I'll try it ;)

aiss

rvlt.gg Open source alternatives to Discord
session No cell phone number, no e-mail, three-hop network.
Matrix has no categories. All the information is crowded into one room.
Telegram. It requires a cell phone number to invade privacy.

Panda-na

aiss

Regarding you mention Revolt Chat. I checked it out, but it has absolutely no information about it. There's no "About-page", I found some kind of revolt wiki, but it is not accessible/the server is down. I found the wiki through web-search. It should be linked from the home page. I will never use a service that doesn't explain what it is. That's why I love GrapheneOS, it has the most comprehensive about page, FAQ, feature list, roadmap etc. I have ever seen. I never doubted supporting GrapheneOS since they seemed really solid.

GrapheneOS

aiss We have 7 chat channels, which are 7 separate rooms on Matrix. It's not all in one room.

missing-root

aiss session was very very problematic when I last used it. They store messages in a blockchain, which makes no sense. You cannot delete messages, in the past if you restored your profile (or got hacked) every message was appearing again.

Checkout SimpleX, that is a great piece of software

aiss

missing-root Your messages aren't stored in the blockchain, they use the blockchain to build three-hop routes, it's just that your traffic is multi-hopped through the blockchain.

ErnestThornhill

missing-root They store messages in a blockchain, which makes no sense.

Your statement is incorrect. Please read through the app's website, especially https://getsession.org/faq. Under the "Messaging" section in the link is the question Are my messages stored on a blockchain? and the answer to it is No, your messages are not stored on a blockchain. Messages are stored by swarms, and are deleted after a fixed amount of time (called the “time-to-live”, or TTL). All of your messages are encrypted, and can only be decrypted using the private key which is stored locally on your device.

missing-root

I suppose they fixed the bug that was occuring maybe 2y ago, where the messages where not autodeleted.

The current method may be better but it is still a workaround. Afaik such a swarm is a blockchain, isnt it? Its just maybe compartimentalized to allow that time-based deletion.

It seems Session is okay to use then.

ErnestThornhill

missing-root Like I said, give the website a read through and you'll have all of the ins and outs of the app instead of assumptions and speculations.

TRInvictus

Hello,

How is it intended to report issues, bugs, change requests, ideas, etc. for GOS here? I've noticed there's very few tags in the discussions, "general" and "development", so is it supposed to use "development" for any kind?

Please advise.
Thank you & best regards

other8026

TRInvictus the issue trackers, usually the OS Issue tracker. Check out https://grapheneos.org/contact#reporting-issues

mrtoo

bayesian There is an unofficial simpleX group. It is public and quite active.

TRInvictus

Thank you for the information, I missed reading/keeping that in mind, I'm sorry.
So issues, change requests, etc. posted here in this forum, are generally being ignored? At least by GOS "officials"?

other8026

TRInvictus not ignored. I suppose the best way to answer this is there are a lot of people who make requests, but very few who help actually work on and maintain features.

Some features would be added if done well by community members. The project developers are busy with other high priority privacy and security improvements.

akc3n

TRInvictus So issues, change requests, etc. posted here in this forum, are generally being ignored?

No, we do not ignore them. However, if you take a look at how we structure our tags on the forum here https://discuss.grapheneos.org/tags verses the labels on our os-issue-tracker https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/labels you may notice that the actual work is all done via our GitHub.

For example, feature requests are labelled as enhancements here https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/labels/enhancement

So, the appropriate platform to attempt to do a feature request/enhancement, would be where our developers are primarily spending their time, which is GitHub.

Please, always search our issue trackers prior to opening a new issue, more than likely there is a similar one already, and this avoids duplicates.

At least by GOS "officials"?

We may discuss these matters in user posted threads, redirect to proper issue-trackers on our project, link to specific issue #'s, etc.

Edit: Meant to start of by saying that I'm adding onto what other8026 already mentioned.

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