Not sure if it will help but maybe we can also post in Android's Issue Tracker thread so that Google support team will prioritize this?

Looking at the ticket in question: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/227166806#comment8 Google assigned P4 priority to this issue and P4 is basically the lowest priority they have, described as "An issue that should be addressed eventually. Such an issue is not relevant to core organizational functions or the work of other teams, or else it relates only to the attractiveness or pleasantness of the system".

In other words, they don't seem to care about this as we can see they didn't do anything in the last 8 months.

Camera is the only thing I missed so dearly from Samsung.

    spl4tt Snap a normal picture of the person, and then add portrait blur via google photos

    Does google photos communicate in any way with google? Or is it only on-camera processing?

      Volen Looking at the ticket in question: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/227166806#comment8 Google assigned P4 priority to this issue and P4 is basically the lowest priority they have, described as "An issue that should be addressed eventually. Such an issue is not relevant to core organizational functions or the work of other teams, or else it relates only to the attractiveness or pleasantness of the system".

      Thanks for looking this up and sharing it.

      I would go further than this: enabling full functionality of Google's Pixel hardware and related software so it can fully work in an OS that is used by people who do NOT want to interact with Google is NOT in their business interests. A P4 response should be entirely expected, not only on this issue but others.

      There can be and likely will be more impediments like this in the future. It is simply not in Google's business interest for GrapheneOS and the alternate, google-free ROMs which allow people to not be tracked by Google to grow.

      I contend that future progress in degoogling depends not only in the software area but equally in the legal area (e.g. privacy and anti-competition).

      16 days later
      11 days later

      Right now I'm just taking normal photos as a workaround and adding the bokeh effect afterwards in Google Photos....

      spl4tt Good call not trusting gphotos, since its primary purpose seems to be to steal your pictures and upload them to a google account.

      Volen I think its necessary to update the FAQ to include this important information so that prospective users will be aware.

      It seems as if this thread has enough supporting info that somebody could submit a pull request against the GOS web site repo.

        de0u Yes, however, it doesn't appear that it is likely that it will be accepted by grapheneos.

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          intelligence You need to actually READ THIS THREAD and associated PR.

          I believe @Volen suggested a FAQ change (different from a GOS change). Perhaps I misread the post I replied to?

            de0u Hopefully so. However, you replied to me, my message is even quoted in yours.

            So, is this issue still a thing or has it been solved by a recent update? I'm wondering why only a few people are experiencing this issue - or report on it. I did not find any reports on the GOS subreddit, a place where I would assume many users would express their complaints about it, which is by no means any reliable metric, of course. But in my experience the frequency of reading about a certain issues often correlates with the probability to encounter that issue. Judging by the github comment every P7 and P7P should be affected by this, right? So it's not much of a question IF I encounter this problem but how much I am annoyed by it?

              Phead Probably so few people complaining about it because;

              1) The GrapheneOS camera software is NOT affected -- only google camera.
              2) Google camera still works, just that some computational functions are slower since it can't use dedicated hardware.
              3) Only Pixel 7 is affected -- 6 and lower is not.
              4) Pixel 7 has a hell of a CPU, so its not really THAT slow.

                intelligence

                1. 1+2) Yes, however, as someone pointed out not all features are available to the GOS cam. So if you happen to spend your money on one of the new pixels you probably want to make use of the extra camera and its feature set. Personally I am way too old to care about a few seconds here and there. But, as someone else pointed out, the camera locks down after 3 or so shots (portrait mode) and thats less cool if that's a recurring problem
                  3) True, did not take that into account
                  4) Apparently the slow down is intense enough to cause the camera to lock down for some time if you happen to take more than one shot.

                Personally, I can live with some downsides to GOS as its fundamentals focus on something else than flashy pics and bokeh effects. But as a soon-to-be GOS User
                I would like to know as many downsides as possible before plugging in the cable and press the button. So if this problem persists on all p7 devices ir should be stated somewhere as known issue, just as a heads-up before you dive in.

                  Phead "it should be stated somewhere"

                  I don't know about that. GOS' mission is essentially to provide a usable de-googled experience. That any Google app is usable in GOS', perhaps say with altered network permissions, is a bonus. Many users of GOS would never even attempt to install or use Google Camera.

                    spiral

                    Right. On the other hand they have a specific section for just the camera: https://grapheneos.org/usage#google-camera

                    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying a lack of camera features is a no-go. As you said most users won't even be using Google apps. But they specifically say that gcam is fully functional which is apparently not the case for P7 devices (yes, they work just fine except when taking portrait pictures, but you know what I mean) Again I'm not compalinig. GOS is awesome and they're doing a great job. I just think it's good to manage expectations there.

                      Phead
                      Hmm. Well considering there is a section on it, perhaps i was incorrect.

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                      Considering that Google Camera has these issues on stock P7 line, isn't this a job for Google to do rather than discussing it here? I mean there's nothing wrong with discussion, it just happens in the wrong room.