Finding a lost or stolen device and being able to delete all data remotely is also part of security and privacy.
It would be interesting if GOS could support this.
Android Find My Device when powered off
Stewart
I think there are real situations when this can not be achieved, e.g. completely drained battery, Faraday cage, etc. Also, you need a trusted service/infrastructure. Not everyone can trust Google for example.
GrapheneOS devs are putting efforts into hardening the possibility of the data being recovered, e.g. time-based auto-reboot feature to bring the encrypted data at rest. And this works every time.
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Oggyo e.g. completely drained battery, Faraday cage
Yeah.
The phones confiscated by the police (at least in Germany) are stored individually in Faraday cages and kept in AFU mode with UPS.
zaiotl I thought that it could be quite private
"Potentially billions of Android devices will start pinging each other via Bluetooth once the Find My Device network launches, ..."
This is a privacy nightmare
boldsuck They can't be kept in AFU mode with auto-reboot enabled though.
I'm quite concerned about this new feature, as already said that's a privacy issue. As i don't want google to be able to find my device when it's on i don't want them to find it when it's off either. As it's an hardware feature, is google able to bypasse GrapheneOS protections and ping other devices without consent ?
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Question in terms of privacy, is it ok to activate the FMD currently available on GOS, being able to delete and reset the phone in case of loss, theft or seizure of one's device is really interesting?
If I remember correctly the gps location will be encrypted end-to-end by Google Password Manager and can only read by the client or who has access to the password.
However you have to provide more privileges to googles framework to ensure that FMD can continuously track the device.
I never tried to remote wipe it, but ringing and location tracking worked. be aware that when you use only GPS tracking without WiFi/Bluetooth Search the accuracy is limited in buildings or bridges.
I've removed speculation and fear mongering going on this in this thread. For the people contributing to that, continuing to do so here or in another thread will lead to at least a temporary suspension from the forum.
An answer has been provided to the question posed in this thread. I will leave the thread unlocked for now, but will lock it if the same continues.
GrapheneOS
Still, the option is shown on GrapheneOS with sandboxed play services. If I select an option, will it work ?
Screenshot : https://albums.ente.io/?t=okduM4kG#BozmWLNz3WtThTbgD2TdwHe7Se37Pu9NfSJQBsrqGGsG
Ah and I guess I would have to give the position permission to play services and I don't want to. Would be nice if @GrapheneOS could explain how to make it work
IamZorro Do you think it needs enabling Google's locations services ?
I would think that it would only require location for detecting other people's devices. When other people's devices are detecting yours, it would use THEIR location. Nevertheless, it could require location to be enabled for the "whole thing" to function.