AlanZ

Indeed, unfortunately It's a function that is missed in signal.

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AlanZ Hopefully this is will be addressed soon, but you also aren't met by a completely empty contact list. Phone numbers are there for a reason, but good on Threema for making both approaches work, although my contact list is still at zero, just like it was when I first purchased it.

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People looking at XMPP might be interested to read XMPP: Admin-in-the-middle by now defunct Infosec Handbook and associated HN discussions here and here. It mostly applies to using third party servers, not hosting your own.

zzz
No link able sources, but read about Australia and encryption.

US politicians are no better than Australian politicians, to say the least.

And “our” government is constantly dinging them to “take action” on the “problem” of encryption for the citizenry.

    supersonic My 0.02 cents. Creator of ,,tinfoil chat'' which is a really secure communicator, has a long reddit history of saying unpleasant things about SimpleX. Sadly i cant say much specyficaly as i was reading this long time ago

      Blastoidea
      Signal does it when you create a new account. At least it used to, once I saw this, I uninstalled the stupid thing right away. Hell, even Molly does it, albeit with hCaptcha (not much better).

      The thing with chat apps is that if everyone/most people I care about aren't going to use it, its useless for me.

      I know nobody who uses XMPP, Session, or Simplex. I do know people who use signal and have convinced a few to use it. But that's it.

      If nobody else, or very few people I know are using it, I'm not going to bother using it. This is a network effect type problem I believe.

        My family and a few close friends, are all on signal, anyone else who wants my number, well they need to download Session. And if they don't- then I guess they don't really need to chat with me.

        Be a grain of sand in the workings of surveillance capitalism