Blastoidea The Senate and their staff have been ordered by their chief of security to use Signal - and they already have hardened, more secure government cell phones (I always wonder what they do for that and if it is more secure than GOS. Heck, maybe they use GOS).
Better than Signal?
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MoonshineMidnight
Interesting, I hadn’t heard that.
Just remember that a significant number of those folks would cheerfully vote for legislation which forbade you and me from using encrypted communications.
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AlanZ Hopefully this is will be addressed soon, but you also aren't met by a completely empty contact list. Phone numbers are there for a reason, but good on Threema for making both approaches work, although my contact list is still at zero, just like it was when I first purchased it.
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People looking at XMPP might be interested to read XMPP: Admin-in-the-middle by now defunct Infosec Handbook and associated HN discussions here and here. It mostly applies to using third party servers, not hosting your own.
MoonshineMidnight
On metadata - see discussion at
https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/12vehzr/comment/jhdb2oe/
and
https://www.reddit.com/r/fossdroid/comments/12vehzr/comment/jhmm0sd/
for references.
zzz
No link able sources, but read about Australia and encryption.
US politicians are no better than Australian politicians, to say the least.
And “our” government is constantly dinging them to “take action” on the “problem” of encryption for the citizenry.
Blastoidea I.e. your government wants to ban encrypted messaging?
supersonic My 0.02 cents. Creator of ,,tinfoil chat'' which is a really secure communicator, has a long reddit history of saying unpleasant things about SimpleX. Sadly i cant say much specyficaly as i was reading this long time ago
Tuba the now-deleted posts he was responding to, you mean?
supersonic not sure, like i said, i read it long time ago
Javcek
Law enforcement never stops trying to gain access to encrypted communications, through lobbying legislators, or any other method they can think up or access.
supersonic That's fine and dandy, but those are threads boosting SimpleX. I read quite a bit of FUD on Signal.
About Signal... Every instant messenger that presents me with Google Captcha can go fuck itself.
AlanZ
Example(s)?
Blastoidea
Signal does it when you create a new account. At least it used to, once I saw this, I uninstalled the stupid thing right away. Hell, even Molly does it, albeit with hCaptcha (not much better).
The thing with chat apps is that if everyone/most people I care about aren't going to use it, its useless for me.
I know nobody who uses XMPP, Session, or Simplex. I do know people who use signal and have convinced a few to use it. But that's it.
If nobody else, or very few people I know are using it, I'm not going to bother using it. This is a network effect type problem I believe.