Android 16 with terminal - useful?

mmobder

nullable sorry, I'm missing your point. Are you referring to your expectations towards what Ggl will deliver as a terminal solution in A16, or are you making assumptions re what Termux is?

nullable

mmobder neither. i am saying if there's a "new " terminal app, it most definately will be nuetered. Probably like the Crosh term within ChromeOS.

That is all i was saying. Not sure where u got those other ideas from. Termux is one of the first things most new devs and hackivists will get to see where, they look and be like "that is cool", and want to do that.

Who doesn't like pretty printed text, raining matrix alphabet, and moo-ving through the FS manually?

Panda-na

jackFang Look at the replies that GrapheneOS posts here:

https://infosec.exchange/@tasket/113360063157076966

The team goes into details about use of VM and GPU acceleration.

nullable

Panda-na that had some fascinating posts but i dont see which posts were really relevant to GPU acceleration and hardware virtualization beyond what little was said ..

I did however read this tidbit which i like:

" User-facing VM management is coming."

TrustExecutor

mmobder
Sorry to hear they ditch the Android apk... This has been a neat solution for a lot of people. Maybe a skilled developer take on the maintenance of the app.

Thanks. I heard there have been serious vulnerabilities with Termux before. I have now uninstalled that app.

freezet

They dont even completed desktop mode , why would they add such a large function in the next upgrade, does not make sense.

DeletedUser88

mmobder Termux by itself is kinda old and dangerous app, not talking about its repositories that are almost always connect to .cn servers

The Play Store version targets SDK 34 now though which is nice.

spammerofspam

This has now rolled out to the stock Pixel OS as part of the March 2025 update, according to https://www.androidauthority.com/android-linux-terminal-app-available-3532999/

Though it is reportedly terminal apps only (GUI apps are expected to work in Android 16).

Anyone gotten a chance to try it out yet? I'm guessing, at least right now, it's on stock OS only. I don't see the option to enable it on my GOS device.

matchboxbananasynergy

spammerofspam It's in the developer options on the latest release which will go to stable soon, but it does not work on GrapheneOS yet. We need to make it work with our hardening, which we're actively working on, and it will be possible to use it in a future release.

spammerofspam

matchboxbananasynergy Great to know! I'm hoping it may be feasible to use this instead of Termux in the future, but I guess it remains to be seen how well this solution integrates with Android storage, etc.

Even with just terminal apps, though, it'll hopefully be useful for firing off the occasional ffmpeg or rclone command.

slimjim55

matchboxbananasynergy
Would it be possible to have the terminal accessible with the developer options disabled?

de0u

slimjim55 Would it be possible to have the terminal accessible with the developer options disabled?

The post you are replying to includes "does not work on GrapheneOS yet" (with "does not" bolded). Is the request that something that does not work be made more available?

Pavestone2734

slimjim55 It probably will be.

naibed

I hope people share their use cases once it goes live. Debian already runs on all my other devices, and I believe there will be many innovative setups w/ the additional capabilities

matchboxbananasynergy

The next release should have this working.

raccoondad

matchboxbananasynergy Much love <3 I wanted a good terminal app for a while

meijin3

Super cool that you guys have this working now! I just tried it myself and I couldn't be more excited. Does anyone know how to access internal storage from the terminal?

GrapheneOS

Please continue this in https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/20647-user-facing-hardware-virtualization-support-in-our-next-os-release. 2025030900 is the first release with the Terminal VM management app and our next release backports support for GUI applications, opt-in GPU hardware acceleration, speaker, microphone and more including a bunch of fixes. Can talk about it in the current thread for this.