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Blastoidea I like no nonsense people. You should come around more often.

Might want to look into decentralized VPNs like Sentinel (DVPN)

Pixel6noobGraphenOS Mullvad VPN with DAITA is the best and most trustworthy VPN Provider out there.

But DAITA is not available (at this date) on the mobile clients (android and iOS) and only a few VPN endpoints support it (yet).

Beside that Mullvad is my choice as well.

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Surprised to see no mention of AirVPN. They are fully FOSS with a short no-log privacy policy. Speeds are a hit or miss but overall it's a great service and some of the cheapest.

Their biggest discount is on black friday (they have many others throughout the year)‌. I bought their biggest package of 3 years last November and I'll likely renew when it ends, unless something changes.

airvpn.org

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    Never and never use NordVPN and never trust this shit advertised everywhere. CyberGhost should also be on blacklist

    IVPN, Mullvad and protonVPN are known to be one of the best for privacy

    Mullvad proved last year that they don't keep customer logs : https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/23692580/mullvad-vpn-raid-sweden-police

    I would also suggest to use OVPN please see the links below :

    https://proprivacy.com/privacy-news/privacy-victory-ovpn-no-logs-policies
    https://torrentfreak.com/ovpn-wins-court-battle-after-pirate-bay-data-demands-rejected-200911/
    https://www.ovpn.com/en/blog/ovpn-fights-court-order

    i'm using mullvad right know

      axl

      I use airvpn myself and so far I like their service.

      I usually get their 3 year discount package when they have a sale.

      I have been using VPNs daily for years now. Mostly Proton Paid, at least since I'm on Android. At the moment I use Tailscale with the Mullvad Addon. Best of both worlds. Though in the last couple of weeks I had more and more connection problems. Maybe I'll switch back to Proton, we'll see.

      Some people mentioned they don't use their VPN daily or only for specific tasks. In that case, is it correct that your ISP can still see your DNS queries? I know there are encrypted DNS protocols like DoT/DoH, but as far as I know, they don't provide the same level of traffic obfuscation as a full VPN tunnel, right?

      Sometimes I just use my Synology as a Tailscale exit node because it's faster, but I feel kind of "naked" since the traffic leaving my server could potentially be visible to my ISP. Is that correct? If it doesn't have a significant impact on privacy, I would actually prefer using my Synology as an exit node. This way, I could save €5 a month and avoid some of the typical VPN-related issues like constant captchas.

        Clueless

        Yes, my understanding is that your ISP can see every DNS query you make when you do not use a VPN. That is my primary use case for using a VPN. I'd be shocked if ISPs like ATT/Comcast in the USA are not logging all internet traffic of their customers indefinitely and perhaps (but hopefully not) also selling the data to the highest bidder.

          treenutz68 Wasn't there an article that the NSA had a room in the main AT&T office somewhere like 10 years ago even, 99.9% sure of that (probably wrong on year, but have been reading on this stuff for ~ 20 years)? Should use one so they don't sell your metadata alone to make money off of you. You already pay for internet, they have no right making money on your habits also. Granted, they can still see what you are doing with a court order, but that's been the case for awhile for a lot of these VPN's.

          LyonSyonII VPNs can be pretty expensive, and I was wondering if it was the norm to use one, as the privacy benefits it provides are small.

          It all depends on your theat model I would say. VPNs with no-log policies offer two privacy benefits, 1) your ISP cannot see or log what sites you are visiting, nor block your access to sites, which is great if your ISP is known to look into what sites people visit to find misconduct or block sites entirely, and 2) neither websites you visit nor peers you connect to can see or log your real unique IP address but will only see a shared one, which is great if you worry an attacker will get access to server logs to doxx all visitors or members of the site, or will trick you into doing a WebRTC call with them or downloading a file from them to doxx you.

          Any VPN provider with a no-log policy is a good choice. The ones mentioned in this thread is the most reputable ones, and I use one of those myself, but to be fair, all legitimate no-log VPN providers offer the above two privacy benefits just the same, even the free ones like RiseUp and ProtonVPN free-tier.

          But if you do not see yourself being at risk of being doxxed in any sense, and live in a decently free country with a largely unfiltered ISP, the benefits of using a VPN is more limited.

            axl You're totally right, I forgot about it. OVPN is no longer a safe choice.

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            Everyone recommends Mullvad but I see them as sketchy. They do not offer multi hop on mobile which is a major need for anyone who wants some higher opsec. This is really bad that they dont have this. I don't trust them.

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              I don't use a VPN, instead I use a private DNS , currently zero.Dns0.eu ,there's also quad9.
              Using VPN and private DNS can alllow private DNS leaks

              anon1

              They just added multi-hop to the iOS app and it will probably come for Android soon. You can do it today by generating a Wireguard profile on their website and using it with a generic Wireguard app.

                Windscribe, hands-down. They're open-source and use Freemium pricing, so it's completely free if you use up to 10 GB per month (or 11 GB if you don't mind using a referral link - https://windscribe.com/yo/v40g2xlr)

                Their speeds are faster than Proton, even at the free tiers, and also permit Netflix/streaming and tormenting/p2p, they frequently have big discounts and giveaways for pro plans, and some pro plans start at $1/mo. They're my absolute favorite VPN and I'm always shocked they're not more well known.

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                LyonSyonII

                I like Mullvad. One thing you should realize though is that using a VPN can also make for some annoyances like being blocked from some sites or not being able to participate or post on some platforms.

                Byku

                The user who posted this got deleted but can someone elaborate.

                Without making a stance on any of this and trying to be netural and informational about the subject:

                They advocate for far-left leaning things.

                I'm not saying its right or wrong, just stating the fact. If anyone wants to research this outside of the forum, go ahead but lets not talk about this matter here.

                  [deleted] I only recommend non-political services so Proton is not one of my favorites.

                  can you elaborate on why proton is a political service? wdym?