Are you planning to buy Pixel 9?

If you have a Pixel 8 as I do I see absolutely zero reason to get a Pixel 9. A theoretical imperceptibly faster processor is all that it offers. Every other feature is AI hype train stuff that won't even work on a GrapheneOS install much like I had to pay for a temperature sensor on the back of this phone that doesn't work in GOS.

Rumors are that Pixel 10 is switching to TSMC's manufacturing and perhaps that will be something to warrant a switch like the perpetually poor reception Pixels have always gotten for me compared to Samsung phones.

How long does it generally take for Graphene to support a new Pixel? I'm in the market but would like to go straight to Graphene, so weighing ordering an 8 or a 9

grafena How long does it generally take for Graphene to support a new Pixel?

I think it has been as little as a day or two for some releases. But there is absolutely no way to be sure in advance! When the 8a shipped, Google did something weird (source), so GrapheneOS 8a users had to use a beta release for around a month. Also, I think this drop has more devices than most, so it might take longer.

And who knows? In theory Google might have decided they won't release certain key components for the 9 series into AOSP. It's up to them!

Overall, it seems pretty plausible that there will be GrapheneOS for the 9-series devices within a week after the developers get devices. But it also might happen that it takes noticeably longer, or maybe even never happens.

"It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future."

Oh, that's awesome! I sort of expected "months not days". Thanks!

morapelor Every other feature is AI hype train stuff that won't even work on a GrapheneOS

Many AI features will work since they're just part of apps. Like, for example, magic eraser works now. I can't think of a reason other photo editing features won't work.

Stuff like "Hey Google" doesn't work because features like that require privileged access to the phone, which isn't possible on GrapheneOS unless they add support for it like what they did for Android Auto.

The official project account said on Twitter:

The features are already largely released already and most of them can be used on GrapheneOS if you install the required apps and set them up. There are certain things that are unavailable. If lots of people want some of the features which are unavailable we can implement it.

morapelor I had to pay for a temperature sensor on the back of this phone that doesn't work in GOS.

It's my understanding that the temperature sensor doesn't work because the app needs special access. According to what a developer said in the issue tracker, adding support wasn't a high priority before because it was only available on one device. Maybe that'll change with the new Pixel 9s. We will have to see what happens.

grafena Both "months" and "days" are possible! My bet is toward the "days" timeframe, but that's just my personal hunch.

I looked at G**gle's page for the P9 and was underwhelmed. I can't justify getting it at all because the only thing that seems remarkably different than previous models is the invasive AI stuff.

It would be foolish for me to buy a new phone already anyway, since I got a P7 pro only a year ago.

locked TSMC 🤣

Panda-na Well, since inflation is a thing, salaries normally follow inflation.

Inflation sure is a thing, however salaries are definitely NOT following it. At least not in the Canadian private sector, and I've heard that the same goes for the US private sector.

secrec I would still argue that most people would be able to afford saving up for buying a phone at 700-900$. If they care for the phone, so it will be undamaged the whole life of the phone (let's say 4 years), it is possible to sell it second hand as well. Then 900$ in four years is 225$, not bad in my view (especially if you can sell it for 250$). But many people don't see financials this way 🤷

https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-price-history-3221497/

No. I have the P8.

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But don't forget the great new M14 display by Samsung, including the much better fingerprint sensor!
If you have much trouble with the optical fingerprint sensor of older Pixel models, then it's a no-brainer.

But if you're very happy with your Pixel 7 Pro or 8 Pro (!) and the fingerprint reader recognises your finger 99% of the time, it's worth waiting for the Pixel 10 (new CPU from TSMC etc.).

No because there is not a big difference with Pixel 8 except that we have now a new Pixel Fold

secrec I would but my P6P is EOL due to a severely cracked screen. Been scraping along since the 8 came out but finally have to move to a new device :(

If my p6p wasn't having those issues - I'd stick with it - (oh - other than lousy battery life)

Pixel 7 Pro working fine for me. No thanks.

So afaik there are no really security benefits, so no. I'll wait new chips ig