If you execute the duress feature, does it basically fully reset the phone back to a graphene os flash.....but also wiping the esim?

Or is it more than this ?

mmmm You could file a feature request with Google and ask them to produce hardware that supports the OS being able to cause the device to immediately explode. 😜

    GrapheneOS I'm very excited for the duress feature! What do you think about putting a little label with the duress PIN on the inside of the phone case in case some nosey person thinks they can just access ones phone?

    I also read that Google is planning a Theft Detection Feature for later this year: "Theft Detection Lock is coming later this year and helps you keep your personal and financial data safe if your phone is ever snatched from you. This powerful new feature uses Google AI to sense if someone snatches your phone from your hand and tries to run, bike or drive away with it. If a theft motion is detected, it will be quickly locked down to keep your information out of the wrong hands."
    Do you think it will find its way into GrapheneOS? It uses Google AI, so I'm not sure how this would work. I've been using Private Lock for some time, but it hasn't been updated for quite some time.

      Clueless I'm very excited for the duress feature! What do you think about putting a little label with the duress PIN on the inside of the phone case in case some nosey person thinks they can just access ones phone?

      Someone actually brought this up in our chat rooms, and I think it's a fantastic use of the feature. A phone snatcher is more likely to want to wipe the phone and sell it, which you as the owner kinda have to accept, but if they try to sign in to see if they can find anything that'll help them making more profit, there are two ways to combat the scenario:

      1. The duress PIN could be a PIN that someone trying random common PINs would try. It could be a birth year that seems to be around your actual age (the thief might start guessing how old you were based on when they saw you and might trip the feature in this way), or something really common like "1234" or similar.

      2. Is what you mentioned. A small sheet of paper in the phone case that contains a few dummy passwords for non-existent accounts (to add legitimacy to what's about to follow) and another entry which you can name "phone PIN" or just "PIN" if you don't want to make it too obvious. That PIN would of course be the duress PIN, which would wipe the device and any eSIMs you have, so that they can no longer try accessing any of the data on it.

      Clueless I also read that Google is planning a Theft Detection Feature for later this year: "Theft Detection Lock is coming later this year and helps you keep your personal and financial data safe if your phone is ever snatched from you. This powerful new feature uses Google AI to sense if someone snatches your phone from your hand and tries to run, bike or drive away with it. If a theft motion is detected, it will be quickly locked down to keep your information out of the wrong hands."

      This will be part of sandboxed Google Play. I don't imagine it'll be able to work without privileges, but it's not 100% certain. Maybe it does. There is an open issue on our tracker to implement something similar. It's something that we might look into in the future.

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        matchboxbananasynergy There is an open issue on our tracker to implement something similar. It's something that we might look into in the future.

        That's cool! I wish I knew android development, so I could contribute to such features. Maybe in the future.

        matchboxbananasynergy A phone snatcher is more likely to want to wipe the phone and sell it, which you as the owner kinda have to accept,

        I wondered about that: I have play services installed and am logged in to my Google account. Will it be FRP locked to make it worthless for the thief? Or is that function removed in GOS? I suspect the latter since it would need google services to be deeply integrated into the system, right?

          Clueless I wondered about that: I have play services installed and am logged in to my Google account. Will it be FRP locked to make it worthless for the thief? Or is that function removed in GOS? I suspect the latter since it would Google services to be deeply integrated into the system, right?

          https://grapheneos.org/faq#anti-theft has the information you need. :)

            User11 As an example, you may want the Owner unlock code to be a password, and the unlock code of a secondary profile to be a PIN (or vice versa). In that case, if you only set a duress password, you wouldn't be able to trigger it from the secondary profile.