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Object_11 Thank you, but I need to see what you're talking about :D .

r134a in theory I can add all I need in Obtanium, but it's simply a long process if you have many apps, and I always hope that the backup will work one day...

Thanks everyone for the hint, I was able to succeed in the following way:

1. Install and activate the Gservices (3 in total and downloaded from the stock App Store of GrapheneOS)

2. Download Telegram from Aurora, I didn't succeed with the version downloaded from their official website, weird but it is what it is

3. Register your account, maybe better to login also in the web

4. Disable the GServices but keep this Telegram version, I didn't succeed to use the FOSS version, it didn't send the code notification to the other app, or probably that needed to be in a different GrapheneOS profile. Whatever, I lost patience and I keep using the official app from the Google Play Store. I don't know if there is a way to receive the SMS instead of the App notification, but it didn't happen to me...

Regarding the real goal of this thread, I saw that Google Services don't have access to any harmful permission, plus they are permanently disabled once you disable them, so you won't see them ON at the next reboot, fantastic.

m4ri0g Thank you for the hint, I was able to succeed in the following way:

1. Install and activate the Gservices (3 in total and downloaded from the stock App Store of GrapheneOS)

2. Download Telegram from Aurora, I didn't succeed with the version downloaded from their official website, weird but it is what it is

3. Register your account, maybe better to login also in the web

4. Disable the GServices but keep this Telegram version, I didn't succeed to use the FOSS version, it didn't send the code notification to the other app, or probably that needed to be in a different GrapheneOS profile. Whatever, I lost patience and I keep using the official app from the Google Play Store. I don't know if there is a way to receive the SMS instead of the App notification, but it didn't happen to me...

Regarding the real goal of this thread, I saw that Google Services don't have access to any harmful permission, plus they are permanently disabled once you disable them, so you won't see them ON at the next reboot, fantastic.

Than you both.
This is a big disappointment, now I'm forced to install another browser, probably Firefox from weird sources.

m4ri0g thank you, I installed the version from their website, so they don't ship the FOSS version...

In another conversation I was recommended to install the Gservices as it's required by the app that you install from Google Play, so I guess that both Google Play and the standard version from their website have the same Google dependent version...

What do you think about the anonymity level instead?

de0u thanks, good news then, but I'd never use a cloud solution for that :D

[deleted] do you know if Telegram blocks Tor exit nodes or VPN after the registration? I mean, can you use both without being banned?

Hi,

I'm using Orbot and interestingly, you can select the apps to be routed through Tor.
If you run it as VPN kind of service on Android, it acts also as a kill switch.

I wonder how it does it, because if I install Tor in a Linux distro, it doesn't have such capability and for reasons I know, so how can it do that on Android?
Does it take the app namespace on Android? I can't think of a different way.

Hi,

I need the Google Services only for Telegram at the moment.

Suppose that I don't use an email address with the Google services, which reduces drastically the tracking and info association, can this process reduce my anonymity level when using Wifi?

I also disabled the Satellite based info, and I wonder why they are not disabled by default.
Location is completely disabled, but I would never grant that to Google anyway.

I came across this weird scenario where I needed to use Orbot but Vanadium couldn't use the Proxy (yes, I run it as a proxy) because there is no settings for it, why it was removed?

pixel6test1 Thank you but did you do all this?
I mean, despite the google services are installed, they are sandboxed in somehow, if you use that profile only for extreme privacy, then what's the problem that pushed you to remove the profile?

Hi,

what could be missing in my Telegram app or OS, such as that I don't receive SMS?
I granted all the necessary permissions, but not stupid things like Camera and Microphone, but it doesn't send an SMS, neither it blocks me if I try for many times, so it seems that something is not working in the OS, or maybe the app installed from their website needs the Google Play services??

Shall I use the FOSS version? But wonder where it is exactly, should they not provide the FOSS version by default from their website??

Hi,

do you see it as an issue if the SIM can be activated only from the main profile? I can't see the option at all in the secondary profile under "Settings" -> "SIM", I can only set the Airplane mode.

r134a Yes, I meant emergency call.

Sorry but at this time I can't flash it back, I need the phone.
Unfortunately, I don't remember if I did this test before installing GrapheneOS, so sad I didn't note it down because I'm pretty sure I was super interested to test it prior to carry the phone at home.

de0u this is right, but I thought that by having the Android suite and everything for the flash process, it could be possible to do it, otherwise where it's written how to do it?
The backup shouldn't stay on my phone only, reconfiguring everything manually is an incredible pain.

r134a No emergency call ever worked, but even in case, it's fine for me.
I at least connected once with a SIM anyway, but not in my home.

I was just wondering how it was possible that GrapheneOS asks for a SIM to perform a call, which for me is absolutely fine but you guys say the opposite :) .

de0u It's just my computer, which is supposed to be identified by GrapheneOS as a backup target.

So at the moment I can't get the backup out of GrapheneOS manually, because I'm not sure what folder it's being used for the backup, I see one in the root tree of the filesystem but I can't be sure if that's the only one...

troika And which one would be decentralized? Anyway I strongly think that it won't suit my friend.

[deleted] Even the free trial asks you to pay, and they accept only cards, but in any case they don't accept TOR...

Thank you all, certainly things that I didn't consider, my case is that I need to communicate with people that just know how to turn ON a device, hence classic tools...

Mailbox.org? I guess it will be blocked everywhere, but let me try.
The problem with custom domain is that they can see the originating email relay and also the sender server address if I'm not wrong, you just need a tool in your infra that gather these info for you and it's all automated, these info are also public.