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GrapheneOS Hi, we had this discussion last night on twitter and indeed it is a complicated subject. But on GrapheneOS, the best solution to navigate while being blended in the biggest mass would be to use Google chrome? Would using it on GrapheneOS make it unique or is it better to stay on vanadium? What is the best solution to be invisible? (A bit to close the topic once and for all)

I think anyone who thinks that they can truly “be invisible” is chasing fairies in the moonlight, but that’s just my opinion.

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    OpenSource-Ghost Yes, but we can't count on the digital fingerprinting of a completely modified chomium browser... That's either chomium or vanadium in my question. Plus brave includes a von and crypto stuff so not good

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      And brave is not in version 112 at the moment

      Does anyone know whether it is possible to install Vanadium on a non-GrapheneOS system? Or is there a decent fork of it?

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        Brave is the most modified because of all the crypto revenue stuff. Bromite is basically hardened and tweaked Ungoogled Chromium + ad-blocking + anti-fingerprinting. I'd stick with Vanadium if security is more important to you than anti-fingerprinting features and anti-ad features. Otherwise I'd use Uazo's builds of Bromite. I don't like Brave.

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          I don't like Brave all that much either but it has in my mind at least one killer feature that Vanadium hasn't. The option to delete all content (history, cookies, etc.) when you close the app.

          I really wish Vanadium had that feature.

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          I don't even know why bromite is mentioned, it is only in version 108! This is a joke

            They have been lagging behind since last December.

            I was using it, but upon reflection, and reading posts here, I dumped it and went back to Vanadium.

            About fingerprint Brave would be interesting keeping its settings to the default value, and if it grow much more.
            Probably Vanadium have a better compatibility with more websites because no add filters.

            matchboxbananasynergy There is somewhere a review checking if Brave still send unwanted data, user ID or anything when telemetry is disabled ?

            The Brave search engine could be trusted ?

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            Blastoidea a few people not from the GOS project have said here that you should use chrome to blend in, but given the feedback I understand that they have deleted their accounts. it's too bad. there are not many ways to make something understood. if you want to gain privacy, it's simple: it depends on what you do with it. you can have a very private life on chrome.

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            yourmother Maybe because it's only available on GrapheneOS?

            Hi guys,
            interesting topic and discussion here, which got me curious, so I've made some tests. Please see my blog post for the results in case you're interested, it's all a bit long to post it here as a newbie I think...
            And to the GrapheneOS team: thanks for your wonderful work!
            Cheers,
            Wolfgang

              wjl thanks for taking the time to do some testing. Are you sure you want to share your IP and location that publicly? I don't know your threat model, but redacting IP and location wouldn't change the points you want to get across, so I assume it's unnecessary and potentially harmful data to share.

              Edit: Unrelated, but you should check if your German website needs a site notice (German "Impressum"). I wanted to see if the location data you shared are consistent with your notice address, but didn't find any. Would be annoying if a greedy lawyer wanted to cash in on your hobby.