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  • I don't think that there is a need to have these options

[deleted] There would be fewer settings, and the user would have to make fewer decisions.

Some people want more control and some people want less. There's always a good reason why the toggles present in GrapheneOS are there.

If you don't care, leave them on the default.

If you do, read the docs:

https://grapheneos.org/faq#default-connections
https://grapheneos.org/faq#other-connections

    Just because one sees no use for something doesn’t mean no one should have or use it.

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      treequell ISPs will know that someone is using GrapheneOS regardless of whether they choose standard Google server or GrapheneOS proxy server.

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        Graphite ISPs can identify GrapheneOS users by all of these GrapheneOS connections, and changing these two to Google servers doesn't change that. So as I said, I couldn't find a single use case for this.

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          Eirikr70 In my opinion, these two toggles are unnecessary and cause unnecessary confusion. But I could be wrong. 

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          blicero If you're saying this with such confidence then might as well name some use cases for it.

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            There's a big difference between inference of an operating system, based on HTTPS connections,.. and having actual certainty of an operating system because identifying information is traveling through your own servers.

            Yes, an ISP can infer if they manually do forensics on connection logs between mobile devices and third party servers. But it would be much easier and a bigger privacy concern if they were the actual servers being communicated with.

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              A big use case is from the "A" of the C.I.A. triad. Availability.

              What happens when GrapheneOS servers go down? Users NEED the ability to fallback to stock capabilities.

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                Graphite I was just saying that changing these two to use Google servers doesn't help hide the fact that someone is using GrapheneOS at all. 

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                  It does help. Not 100% prevention. But it goes from obvious and easy to manual log review required. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.