samsepi0l I'll suggest installing Molly from Accrescent IMHO (if you don't have Play Store), it's more secure and you don't have to TOFU because apps are verified before installation. It's a bit out of scope though.

Do you have a list of Accrescent apps available? I am planning into migrating from F-Droid to it.

    Signal always auto updates and notifies me appropriately, however I use it in a non Google Play Profile granting it Battery Optimisation Exception to enable the websocket connection to be maintained for push.

    If you are using it from the website while using sandboxed Play Services it may conflict as Signal may not push the notification to self update via FCM believing any app using FCM would be updated appropriately via the Play Store.

      MetropleX That's an interesting thought. Thank you. Will have to wait for the next update and see what happens.

      For what it's worth Signal stopped prompting me to update about a month? ago. Installed from their website as an apk. Used to self update like every week....

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      It's still in alpha, a limited list of devs are allowed to publish their apps for now.

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      BTW, in Molly's settings, you can go into the settings (Vertical 3 dots > Settings > Help > Toggle the "Auto-update Molly" switch off and then on) to "manually" trigger a Molly update, if you know that there's a released update but the app hasn't checked yet.

      IIRC, the Signal website APK doesn't have options/menus to trigger any form of update. You basically pray that the update will come when the website APK automatically checks for updates on its own.

      Just one thing to note, the Signal website apk version only fetches updates while on wifi. If you are on mobile data all the time it will not auto-update.

        focused_panini I don't understand that decision myself.

        Not everyone around the globe has access to unlimited or large cap mobile data plans. If Signal implement an auto update feature that could eat into someones data or cause large charges it would/could be bad press and reduce adoption.

          MetropleX I get that so a certain point, but there is already an option in the app to auto-download media over mobile broadband. Using the app update solely as the reason for not allowing it doesn't hold it's weight.

          Having the option, but set to default would be safe. If a user chooses to enable it various warnings of data use could be presented. Even just have it two-stage; one to alert of an update, and the second to download and install.
          Signal is the only app that appears to deny updates this way.

          Loving the username by the way - Transformers fan?

            focused_panini Yeah I get you seems like the lazy option but when you see what's been going on regards the Signal Desktop app it doesn't surprise me.

            focused_panini Loving the username by the way - Transformers fan?

            Certainly am G1 all the way!

            MetropleX

            It seems that Signal these days has been focused a lot on a making sure that users don't get charged from carriers with limited data or text messaging.
            They don't allow updates over mobile, and they will no longer be allowing SMS.
            It really sucks for those of us who don't have that concern.

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              I’m not trying to be argumentative, but I suspect that it sucks even more for those who do have that concern.

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                I get it. I just wish disclaimers and configurable options were the default response, instead of complete removal of features. I'm not sure what Moxie would have done if still in charge. It's okay to cater to the users with the most risk... but they shouldn't dismiss others. Just put up an option that makes it clear in bold text, "you may be charged by your carrier for data usage". They know how to nag the user for donations and verifying your PIN.

                Signal still allows SMS.
                Does Molly allow SMS at this time?
                Will it follow Signal and stop allowing SMS in the near future?
                thanks

                  zehyani Signal still allows SMS.

                  They have started pushing notifications within the app about Signal removing SMS so imagine the timescale is short for this to continue.

                    To update from my initial post, I received an update to Signal this morning via notification from the Signal app.

                    This thread may be be updated to Solved from my point of view.

                    Thanks all who contributed.

                    MetropleX

                    Since we won't be able to have encrypted backups of SMS using Signal anymore, is there a preferred method to backup/archive SMS messages in an encrypted way? 3rd app?