It is rumored the tensor g5 will be ditching samsung for tsmc. This could either have benefits or drawbacks, depending on how u look at it. If the later is the case, this could imply it will be first-gen transition, which could have it's own set of issues. This is all speculation ofcourse.

    BaronAfanas i was not able to recognize any substantial benefits in p9pro vs p8pro, besides the larger size of p9proxl which is also a question I would like to know ahead, will there also be a p10proxl and will it be as large as the p9proxl? if not then p9pxl will be an additional candidate for purchase right now.

      r134a interesting piece of info, i have no clue what this is about but def will look it up in details, of course i know p10 comes with tensor g5 instead of g4 but that is where my knowledge ends.

          Onlyfun And then it will probably take the GOS team some time to figure out added flaws in the P10pro design :/

            Onlyfun The regular Pixel 10 may have a telephoto camera like the pro phones. Idk why you want the pro but if its the camera you might like the Pixel 10 better because it has the zoom cam, plus its a lot smaller than the pros.

            It will also be allegedly quite a bit more powerful than the pixel 9 and the build quality will be a lot better than the Pixel 8 series.

                trashaccount thank you for the info anyway it's good to know. the pro versions are planned as gifts for people who prefer large devices. camera's benefits are not important.

                for myself even p5 screen was enough and it is crucial to have a one hand usable device, it really bothers me if i need to occupy both hands where it is totally avoidable.

                i think i'll just go for p8 and p8pro.

                i appeciate everybody's responses!

                  trashaccount hold on, can you share a source of your last statement? about the better build quality?

                  p8's quality is a torture for me, 3rd p8 and it is already failng the touchscreen test. it is light years behind my s20 quality wise.

                      now this is interesting, even though I mentioned that financial part is not a criteria in this case, i could not ignore that pixel 8 pro has same price as pixel 9 pro and pixel 9 pro xl, that makes it nonsense to buy pixel 8 pro (other than someone wanting the particular screen size of p8pro which is 6.7" unique in this case with p9pro 6.3 and p9proxl 6.8), doesn't it?

                      Or is there some substantial benefit in p8pro compared to p9pro and p9proxl?

                        Onlyfun

                        Onlyfun Pixel 8 and 8 pro are very affordable in Europe.

                        The pixel 9 and 9 pro are close to twice the price and the next series will be probably even more expensive.

                        If you are not a high valuable target, you'll be fine without the modem hardware security enhancement from pixel 9 series.

                        Just buy yourself a pixel 8.

                              Onlyfun Yeah you can observe the 9s build compared to the 8 and its a lot better.
                              Im confident they will just improve the pixel 9s build on the 10.

                                Onlyfun no i'm talking about new phones that you can buy in official shops. I don't buy from google cause they rarely make good offer.

                                In my country, pixel 8 pro are around 500€ and pixel 8 around 450€ and all pixels are always OEM unlocked.

                                  The P10 will have an SoC from TSMC instead of Samsung. It should be much more efficient than any previous pixel.

                                  The modems in the 9 series are a huge advantage over the Pixels between the 6-8 generation. They are really bad but I've personally used the 9 pro and its phenomenonal. I could only imagine the ten improving on that. The 9a will have the old generation modems so just look out for that.

                                  Much info on the Pixel 10 (including CAD-renders) and the Tensor G5 is already available on GSMarena:

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/cad_renders_for_the_google_pixel_10_show_a_third_camera_10_pro_and_10_pro_xl_also_with_three-news-66897.php

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_10s_gpu_might_come_courtesy_of_imagination-news-67068.php

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_10_pro_fold_cad_renders_design-news-67179.php

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_10_to_get_an_overhauled_camera_system_10_pro_fold_sees_minor_changes-news-67235.php

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/google_tensor_g5_leak_details_key_changes_-news-67008.php

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/big_leak_details_specs_for_google_tensor_g5_and_g6_-news-65048.php

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/first_evidence_that_the_tensor_g5_will_be_fabbed_by_tsmc_uncovered-news-63018.php

                                    Onlyfun

                                    Can you be a bit more specific than “feels unreliable”?

                                    What do you see as unreliable?