So that's what you've been working on recently! Thank you very much :)

Given that "5G only" and "4G or 5G only" modes are now available, I'm curious to see how the official stance on LTE and 5G will be updated. I know 5G has some security benefits but I can't figure out whether I should use it, just yet.

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    Network location in Location Services works great !

    My configuration: Location Services > Network location > GrapheneOS proxy. Using Organic Maps: Offline Map and Google Maps in a second system-wide profile, the device is indoors, the device's location works, if I disable Network location, the device's location doesn't work.

    The addition of 5G only or 4G/5G only is also very welcome.

    GG to the GOS team as usual, it will be great when the functionality is extended to cell towers etc.

    Would like to see an option for "GrapheneOS Developer Recommended Defaults" after each update, with a diff of what would change. For older installs that might not have caught up.

    IcyScroll I'm curious to see how the official stance on LTE and 5G will be updated

    I would not expect anything to be changed. The purpose of these features remains attack surface reduction, by allowing the user to enable only the minimum set of protocols they require. The latest changes merely provide more flexibility than previously.

    If 5G offered any significant security improvements (or known additional risks), that would likely have been discussed extensively here, and a 5G-only feature would have been added much sooner.

    Bottom line: the previous advice should still stand. Avoid cellular networks if you can. If you must use them, enable only the protocols you need to get coverage in your area.

      enable support for blocking callers not in Contacts

      How will it work with secondary profiles? E.g. if this is turned on, will it block incoming calls from numbers that are saved in Owner's Contacts app but aren't in the currently active profile?

      Probably9857 I would not expect anything to be changed.

      Well, it has to be at least slightly updated now.

      Probably9857 If 5G offered any significant security improvements (or known additional risks), that would likely have been discussed extensively here

      I recall somebody discussing it here, although not extensively.
      https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16437-feature-request-5g-only-mode-with-android-15

      Probably9857 or known additional risks

      For now, 4G-only mode makes more sense since 5G has a lot more attack surface.

      https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/16437-feature-request-5g-only-mode-with-android-15/5

      Probably9857 If 5G offered any significant security improvements (or known additional risks), that would likely have been discussed extensively here, and a 5G-only feature would have been added much sooner.

      Yes, the cellular network isn't secure and 4G / 5G Only is simply a way of reducing the attack surface, but that's also because before, 5G coverage was much less deployed than 4G coverage, 5G coverage is now expanding.

        Which network location settings are best from a privacy perspective?

        Are there any benifits of WiFi location over GPS other than it works better indoors?

        If we use WiFi location what information is sent to GOS or Apples servers?

        angela

        angela does this work when someone isn't using a cellular network or WiFi?

        It would be nice if one day these requests can be routed through VPN and then Tor (Port 9050) for those of us who don't trust anyone ever.

        What do you think is routing / transporting your packets in this combination? I am really not sure if you're trolling here, or you really have no clue how any of this works but watched one too many doomsday yt vids.

          Xtreix before, 5G coverage was much less deployed than 4G coverage, 5G coverage is now expanding

          Yes, that is the way of the universe... newer things replace older things. Not sure what point you're trying to make here.

          All I was saying there is that if 5G did have significant security benefits over 4G/LTE, GrapheneOS would likely have made 5G-only a higher priority, rather than waiting for it to be more widely available.

          Since GrapheneOS did not do that, we can infer that the project does not view 5G as a significant improvement in terms of security.

          Seems to me like we are in agreement.

          0xsigsev he wants to loop himself into the 3rd Dimension ???

          Sorry but VPN and Tor is not a good idea in case you don't know exactly what you do

            Murcielago wait what, you can stop anyone calling you whos not in your contacts? how does one do this?

              oci3o wait what, you can stop anyone calling you whos not in your contacts? how does one do this?

              Phone app > Settings > Blocked numbers

              Are update rollouts staged or does it take a few hours after a post is made for a new version until it gets pushed to all GOS devices? Because my device doesn't find the newest update. It says that I already have the newest stable release installed.

                riOrthra First they roll out alpha, then beta, last the stable version.I have it already, as I am on the alpha release channel. Just be patient.

                  Does blocking callers not in contacts also help with reducing attack surface?

                    Since when can you block callers that aren't in the contacts?
                    Where is something in the release Notes

                      Titan_M2 No, but it will help you with spam calls. Assuming of course you can allow yourself to block any caller outside of your contacts list.