Have long been considering GrapheneOS and with the Pixel 9 on sale at Mint Mobile, thinking about jumping in. Living in an iPhone household and having many contacts with iOS, RCS support in iOS 18 looks promising for Android users. Commenting to say I how much I appreciate everyone's contributions to this specific topic and will follow thread for updates. Cheers.
Using RCS with Google Messages on GrapheneOS
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Byku I'm in the US and barely anyone here actively uses WhatsApp, Signal, or really any third-party messenger. Everyone sticks to the default messenger and since iPhones are the most common, that means iMessage.
Even if they do have an active account or app installed from a third-party messenger, they don't use it and it's become a meme to be irritated whenever someone tries to message you on anything other than iMessage. The "Green bubble" dread is also an issue, not just among teens but among full grown adults that still act like children. Here's a pretty comprehensive video from a popular youtube tech reviewer on how messaging in the US got so weird if you're curious.
both parties using Google Messages app
Google managed to set Google Messages as the default messaging client on Android and even got Samsung to switch to using Google Messages instead of Samsung Messages. So, nowadays, if someone has an up to date android device, they almost definitely have Google Messages installed and are likely using it as their default messaging app already.
both parties having RCS enabled
Google made RCS turn on by default last year. Despite the difficulties of getting it to work on GrapheneOS, it's a frictionless process on stock.
both parties having access to network via mobie data or Wi-Fi
At least in the USA, that's a very low bar and it's basically unheard that someone forfeits a mobile plan, especially since most people here buy their phones through their mobile phone carrier under contract. Free wifi is also available almost everywhere. Data coverage maps have also improved a lot for the 3 major US wireless networks. People these days even have wifi on planes and utilize satellite internet services when in the outskirts or out at sea. So, this is pretty much a non-issue 99.99% of the time. Further, other messaging apps also require data or wifi so not sure why this is relevant...
While iMessage is still king in the US, Google Messages is still the second best alternative since I at least get E2EE with the few android users I know. But, now that Apple is rolling out RCS support with some hearsay that Apple will implement encryption in the future, that's even more reason to keep using Google Messages. Even without encryption between iPhone users, it's still enough to make some things break less such as sending videos and larger files, which makes dealing with tech illiterate apple users slightly less frustrating.
Obviously, these aren't the best messaging platforms for privacy. But that doesn't really matter when no one uses the alternatives. This is also a different use case. If I'm exchanging information with someone who is also knowledgeable about privacy, I may get them to temporarily install Signal, SimpleX, etc. But that's very infrequent. Most of the time, it's just day to day messaging with mostly tech illiterate/apathetic people who would rather tell me to drop $1,200 on a new iPhone then for them to install a third-party messenger...
Today when opening Google Messages, I randomly got a message saying that RCS was now ready for my Pixel 8 Pro on Tello. I haven't done any of the workarounds in this thread so this surprised me.
Did anyone else suddenly get RCS?
I got Google Messages with RCS to work but during the process I did receive a Messenger Verification Code which I didn't need to use. Is this normal?
Luigi64 Someone might have typed in the wrong number when setting about social media account
Do you have Sandbox Google Play or the Google app?
It could be something about your carrier, also Google has done a few more updates to messages BTW when A lot of people were having problems, and now...
Just tested by downloading Google Messages, RCS was automatically enabled within 5 mins for me. I have done nothing additional to get it to work.
OfflinePuffin I do use sandboxed Google Play Services
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83639273 Dude, I've been struggling for months, trying everything, and this is the ONLY thing that worked. Thank you!! Texting some of my iPhone buddies with RCS chats feels surreal, never would have imagined it just a couple years ago.
FYI for anyone reading this: If its not working, download the Google app and give it the same permissions, including device identifiers. Initially OP's method didn't work, but this fixed it for me.
Really sucks Google has made RCS "theirs", but if that's what it takes to get it adopted, oh well... We all know phone carriers don't give enough of a shit to create proper RCS infrastructure
biscuit_tosser_88 still working? no disconnections?
bushraptor still working. Never had a hiccup
biscuit_tosser_88 wow, awesome. I'm trying to make sure I don't start losing RCS once iPhones get RCS next week
bushraptor ah, good. I didn't know they were getting updated next week. Bring able to send full res pictures and files will help me out a lot at work. It's funny, though, how many of my (Android) contacts still haven't been updated to RCS, or they're choosing to not use it.
No issues here. I am using Graphene on my Pixel 9 Pro XL. I do have Google Play Services installed on the Owner prfile and am using Google Messages on the Owner and a User profile without any issues. I have no installed Google Play Services on the User profile. My carriers are T-Mobile USA and Rogers Canada.
LordDrakkon Rogers Canada has been great with their RCS implementation - very few hiccups.
RCS has been working for me since I upgraded to P9P XL at the beginning of the month. All G suite installed, carrier is google fi.
RCS should be live for most to all iPhones at this point!
YAY!