Blastoidea You could say alongside all other projects Google has, alongside the 5A, 6(A)/Pro, 7(A)/Pro, and 8 (Pro). Plus the tablet and fold, that google has to limit resources somewhere...but also you could make the case the 5 was chosen specifically so people buy another phone.
Making sense of corporate decisions is not always easy.
I would ask Google if there is an upgrade plan of some kind, I got my 6A for free but don't hold your breath I still don't really know why that happened
raccoondad
I agree.
Thanks.
It sucks, especially how long Apple supports their devices, I have an iPad from several years ago that still got the latest IOS. This is the problem with Android, they drop support so quickly and most of them you're lucky to get updates after 2 years. XDA developers used to be so good at post support, but the custom rom scene seems to have died out. I had a Nokia 9 Pureview that got nothing and is stuck on Android 10 :/
I wont be buying a Pixel again, I hate the design of their new phones. Graphene OS really needs to expand their horizons, really that Sony 1 series (whatever it's called) should be supported. I do not understand where all the power users have gone that want a Micro SD slot and want a 3.5mm jack and no hole in the screen? Seems like that segment along with XDA Developers have died off.
I still want it alongside no Google on my phone, I want small one handed phones that aren't metal and glass and don't have huge camera bumps. Seems like there are none of us out there and everyone just wants a tablet for a phone.
I'm probably just gonna hope the iPhone SE 4 is just an iPhone Mini with a new SoC and switch to that. The Pixel 5 is only three years old and the support is dropped.... Wtf? Imagine if the iPhone 12 stopped getting updates, there would be outrage.
I understand your frustration, but at the same time, not to be a party pooper, but you know what the minimum support guarantee of the device was when you bought it. 6 and 7 gen are 5 years, and 8th gen is 7 years. Now if they cut that short, I'd be upset.
GrapheneOS will not support devices if they don't meet the project's criteria. Currently, no other devices do:
A week ago, Android 14 QPR2 was merged into the Redfin source code tree. Does this mean Google continues to support the Pixel 5?
navion
Considering that this also shows for the Coral tree (Pixel 4XL) which obviously isn't supported any more (updates went until Oct 2022 as far as I can tell), then I doubt it.
Dumdum
That's weird, but it's made on purpose and means it's still possible to build the latest version of Android for these obsolete devices.
navion No, the Pixel 5 is no longer supported. They haven't removed all the repositories for end-of-life devices yet.
navion No, that's completely wrong. It is not possible to build what's available for it. You're making the incorrect assumption that the repositories still being around and having changes made to avoid breaking builds for other targets means that they're still supported. It's not the case. Try using the code that's there and you'll see it won't work... In fact, getting it working would largely involve reverting assorted changes which broke it which would require a device branch to do reasonably without hacks.
I'm just going to reply so you know you are not alone in the darkness hoping for the light of a decent small form factor and UI ...
but firstly, I just emphasise that I know this problem is coming from Google and we cannot expect GOS devs to work around Google $hitine$$ or put their resources into a phone that doesn't meet their criteria. The GOS account comment above is really helpful because now I understand why moving GOS on Pixel 5 to Android 15 is not only 'not easy' but also a pointless exercise and waste of resources despite the same SD765G/X52 modem as the 5a.
As a Pixel 5 owner, I'm still feeling really raw and angry that Google move the cheaper 5a to 15 but not the flagship 5, despite the same chipset/modem. I just try to remind myself that it is access to Android 15 that Google are denying us and that GOS/Android14 is still a plus over the original Android 11.
That really just leaves the discussion points to be over the issues you raise about form factor & materials, weight, battery life and 'why we can't have nice things'. And boy, can I talk about this in an echo chamber ... :) I almost want to start a new 'off-topic' thread.
Google are not getting an upgrade purchase from me until they sell something small that doesn't weigh almost a quarter of a kilo once it is in a flip case. The upcoming Pixel 9 is not looking hopeful either. I purchased my Pixel 5 direct from Google, still at a flagship/premium price point but with a trivial discount, in late Autumn 2021.
It was only the sweet spot of GOS (with Android's more recent SElinux implementation) + SD765G power efficiency + Pixel 5 form factor that finally brought me into the Android ecosystem. I admit that modern life had started to become increasingly difficult without travel apps on my Blackberry OS Q10. I'm lucky to have dual sims with the same number; so GOS/Pixel 5 is my banking/travelapp/away from home phone and the Q10 remains the daily driver. The Q10: small, week+ battery life, screen turns on when I open the flip case, email just a swipe away and other UI stuff that is still streets ahead of the Android launcher even after 10+ years.
I'll stop here for now, maybe we should have an 'off-topic' thread after all. My original intention in replying had just been to let you know you are not alone alone in the darkness of the world's $hitification with giant, heavy phones, poor battery life and hopeless UI.
There is an old saying about cutting off your nose.
You really don’t hurt Google by not buying another pixel, but you are denying yourself the only phone which GrapheneOS will support.
Think about it.
greenstumps Jesus, just get a pixel 8 and be done with it it's 95.643% the same phone
I have one of each.
The 8 is insignificantly larger, and has the fingerprint reader under the screen.
navion Just be aware you've bought an already end-of-life device without security patches. It's not a good idea and shouldn't be encouraged in this forum. Seeing this kind of thing discourages us from wanting to provide extended support releases. At best, they're meant to be a stopgap measure for people to get some partial patches while they migrate to a supported device, not for people to buy when they're already end-of-life...
I am really sad to see Pixel 5 to be EOL. There is no real alternative - if you want a light-weighted device in a acceptable size. The only modern phones in this range are Samsung's S phone, but yeah, no useful custom ROMs at all.
So I need to stay on 5.
I understand that not all new features might work on older devices. That security might be less. But let people decide how they set priorities. Don't want to have a 200g brick in my pocket.
matchboxbananasynergy 8a is missing :)
It is unfortunate the Pixel 5 is EOL after only 4 years, but there is nothing to stop people from continuing to use it. With the lack of security updates just be mindful of how it is used.
Pixel 5:
"receive extended support from GrapheneOS via a legacy branch based on Android 14 with only the Android Open Source Project security backports, certain other security patches, and other minimal changes to keep them working"
Do I understand it right, there are
And because there are no vendor updates Graphene drops OS updates too? Why?
What does the LOS people do? They have ported even A15 to Pixel1, right?
Don't misunderstood me - I highly appreciate work on GOS and my deepest respect to the team/maintainers behind it. I am not demanding anything. But that is my serious question:
If I for several reason don't want to drop my Pixel 5 phone, am I better with LOS?
How long does AOSP supports A14 and GOS will provide at least some updates?
Latest release was in Dec 2024 (very good), but it shows Android Patch level Dec 2023 (?). Does it mean Android Patch level is not OS, but vendor?
I hope I don't mix up too many things, sorry - I am just asking.
My son owns an 8a (check its dimensions), to me it looks tiny in comparison with main line of Pixels. I mean come on, is money the issue? 0.1 inch difference in screen size is negligible. Security issue should worry you more than that. Remember, 8a will still be up to date in 2031. Stubbornness is not in the right place here for your own good.
No, it is not about the money. (8a is even bigger, not just count the display size!).
I even had a 6a here, which is one of the (now) smaller one and even cheaper than 5.
I would go for 9 pro because if it's tele lens, but hey, even 6a was to heavy with 180g .The 9/9pro is even 200g! That's a lot.
Different people have different priorities, I just ask, what I can expect - nothing else.
And finally it is very critical to dump a less than 4 year old phone. (It was in production til 20 Aug 2021 !!!)
That is a waste of resources I can't support.
