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Hello,

First time user of GOS and I’m already very excited. I downloaded the exp v2 a couple of days ago and everything has been working smoothly. Wondering what are the steps I have to take/if any in order to get the none exp version for the P8P. I am currently on the stable release, if that information is needed. Thank you to all the devs!

    First time user of GOS, was a bit of a coward, got my phone a while ago, but wanted to wait for the non experimental version of GOS.

    Glad to see this version is out and working well. Will download now (came from e/OS so look forward to seeing the differences) .

      KeenAmatuer I came from a year on eOS, a year ago... no turning back, GOS is amazing! Welcome :)

        First of all, let me echo @de0u's statement and thank the users here who got heated for resolving things amicably. I have removed a response from one participant in that as they themselves also now seem to realize it was out of line. Let's all remember that we're on the same side here!

        It seems a lot of people are interested in whether face unlock will be enabled/supported on 8th gen Pixels in the future. The answer that I can give y'all right now is "it has not been determined yet".

        7th gen Pixel face unlock was very insecure, and was therefore not included. 4th gen Pixel face unlock was very secure, due to having dedicated hardware to properly support the feature securely, and was therefore enabled/used by GrapheneOS.

        8th gen Pixels are somwhere inbetween, where it doesn't have the dedicated hardware, but Google seems confident that they have "software solved" the issue, essentially. The team isn't going to include just based on that alone, so it needs to be determined that it is something that's secure enough that it makes sense to include in the OS. Unlock methods not being secure is not a minor thing. That's why pattern unlock is not available in GrapheneOS, and why we made the choice to not support face unlock on 7th gen Pixels. For us to enable it, we'll need to feel confident that it is adequate. Your patience is very much appreciated while we decide. :)

          matchboxbananasynergy If the official answer is the team can but is choosing not to based on making that decision on behalf of their userbase then I would like to request 'PIN Scramble' be made mandatory as there is no justification for allowing the End User the choice to be less secure.

              morapelor Rest assured that I understand your thought process here, but your example isn't quite valid.

              The PIN scramble feature not being mandatory isn't the same as allowing a face unlock method that is deemed insecure or trivially spoofable.

              Also, please keep in mind that no "choice" has been made as I explained above, and that if the team chooses to incorporate face unlock on 8th gen Pixels, it still needs to be implemented. It's not a one-click solution. That said, the most important aspect if whether it is secure or not.

                  matchboxbananasynergy
                  I apalogize in advance if you think it's still too early to have this discussion, but in the eventuality the team deems face recognition too insecure to unlock the phone, could a middle ground be found and still allow to use it in-app?

                  My threat model implies that if someone is able to unlock my phone with my PIN, I'm pretty much screwed anyway. From there, I would feel very comfortable using face recognition for application supporting biometrics authentication for convenience, and convenience only. I would like to use fingerprint recognition for this use case, but it seems the sensor is not that great, to say the least, because I cannot get it to work reliably, if at all.

                    matchboxbananasynergy Not sure if not setting any password at all should be an option, but Pin scrambling would be too much for people like my mother.

                      DisplayPort over USB is quite a nice update for the multi-monitor desk setup. Yet another reason to make the P7 to P8/P8p upgrade.
                      Very nice work GOS team!

                      5 months later