[deleted] if you are using the Google Maps in the browser, without Play Services and reliant on GPS/OS Location API, you may need to get a lock using the GPSTest app first. Can you try that for me? I am presuming when you tried it in Vanadium you had granted Vanadium the Location permission?

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    MetropleX thanks for the quick reply. I'm using Vanadium and sandboxed Google Play Services. I have allowed Vanadium location permission and allowed location permission to Google Mapa Go but not allowed that permission to Google Play Services.
    When I open the Google Maps Go (the little Google Maps app) it redirects to Vanadium browser and "my location" icon at bottom right has a cross line. If I change location permission in Vanadium app info from "allow while in use" to "ask allways" the browser request for the permission when I click "my location" icon but the cross line do not dissapears and my location is not displayed.
    If I open "maps.google.com" directly at Vanadium the "my location icon" does has also the cross bar, when I click on it Vanadium request for the location permission and, if I allow it, my location is displayed and the "my location" icon becomes blue (after a while).
    I have also tried to set Chrome browser as the default browser and it works exactly same as Vanadium.
    I think maybe is a issue in the comms over the browser (Vanadium or Chrome) and the app.

    Finally, I have tried same (with Chrome and also with Vanadium) in other phone running other OS than GrapheneOS and, when I allow location permission to the browser and to the Google Maps Go it works fine.

    Thanks again

      [deleted] even if using sandboxed Play Services, if you don't disable the OS reroute toggle to the OS Location API (GNSS/GPS) it will always use GPS. When using GPS it can take a little longer to gain a lock. I you wish to improve the speed/capability (indoors) then you must disable the toggle and enable wifi/bluetooth scanning to use Googles network based location service.

      If when using Go/PWA or Vanadium you get the green dot location indicator you should just need to wait for a lock.
      Or it could be an issue where a lock is a prerequisite and therefore using GPSTest prior to launching Go/PWA or maps.google.com in Vanadium might resolve it.

      [UPDATE 1] Just tested Vanadium and maps.google.com with no Play Services it got the lock as you say just going to try Google Maps Go now...

      [UPDATE 2] Yes Google Maps Go is indeed more of a chore, not got it to work yet and doesn't seem to recognise the default Vanadium permission.

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        MetropleX do you think there's a solution to gmaps go?

          a year later

          Hello All.

          I'm in the process of setting up a new Pixel 7 Pro and am having problems with location services.
          One thing that I didn't see mentioned in this thread (sorry if I missed it) is that, in order to get OSM or a weather app or a weather radar app to work properly, I had to allow network access to Play Services.

          Is that a common thing to do?

          I have not signed into Google anywhere on this phone so, while apps may be collecting data, they can't associate said data to me specificallay... afaik.

          So, even with Location (not redirected), Network, Notifications and Sensors allowed to Play Services and Location, Network and Sensors allowed to GPS test, the latter still cannot get a fix and shows no satellites while my stock Samsung phone shows 44 while sitting next to the Pixel on the desk.

          Any thoughts?

          Thank to all and to all a goodnight.
          :)

          B

          a month later

          ayaen
          Airports, universities, itineraries from your place to another when searching when you are at your house,... Of course there is use cases

          ayaen
          Recently, even location outdoor is getting bad. At two times revently, my Pixel 7 (with GrapheneOS) took 5 minutes to find my location...
          My friend's iphone instantly found GPS ... Fortunately I had 1hr to find my bus ...

            Isn't it something @GrapheneOS can do to to make finding GPS easier ? Without Play Services because I don't want to give up my privacy tu use my GPS

              83639273 what privacy do you give up when you install playservices but do not login to playstore?

                83639273 took 5 minutes to find my location.

                Sounds like you may not have been assisted by aGPS. Also the GPS hardware may not have been able to download GPS almanacs. Did you have a cellular connection while attempting to get location? Did you have any other kind of network connection?

                If you dont have recent almanacs already downloaded and you have no network connection downloading them directly from GPS satellites takes some time.

                  Carlos-Anso
                  Ok thank you for the explanation. I indeed hadn't network connection when I tried to use the GPS

                  10 days later

                  83639273
                  How so and to what extent?
                  I've heard that if Google Play is not installed, apps have very little information about your device.
                  They certainly can't get to the imei number.