Best Privacy Apps/Tools for GrapheneOS

DeletedUser127 what percentage of desktop users uses Qubes? You can not generalize from that. Vast majority of desktop distributions and what people commonly use are well below par with GrapheneOS in security as well as privacy POV.

I am not certain I understand your point. I mean, what percentage of mobile users use GrapheneOS? In both cases it is minuscule numbers. I was only remarking on your statement that no desktop operating system can offer control similar to GrapheneOS, as that in an absolute sense isn't true. QubesOS offers more control, and is a desktop operating system.

angela everyone is entitled to a wrong opinion, including you, yet again my real point wasn't understood. I am pretty much done with this forum. But not with GrapheneOS, for sure.

DeletedUser127 I know you were saying out of the box.

You shouldn't leave the forum over this. You have many good posts.

DeletedUser127 also I apologies if my reply seemed insulting. They are just incrediy different operating systems with different use cases that often don't overlap.

I personally use:

Vpn: Mullvad (with their DNS)
Password Manager: Bitwarden
Email: Tuta (and Proton as backup)
Notes: standard notes app
Browse: Vanadium (as recommended)

(I also use the standard grapheneOs apps, if one is provided)

I didnt look up any other categories for apps.
And i decided on this based mostly on the opinion of people in forums, i didnt review any source code or anything (so evalute my opinion based on that)

For password managers, as far as im aware, if you want to use multiple profiles (and the same passwords), its easier to use a cloud base one like bitwarden, instead of a local one like keypassx (because sharing the files is harder)..

(proton vpn and password manager is also good btw, i am just personally not much of fan of the company anymore)

I see standard notes mentioned quite often here but the free version does not support anything but plain text, does that mean people buy plans for stuff like markdown, check lists etc or am I missing something?

0xsigsev I'm a Proton Unlimited customer and got a hefty discount for Standard Notes. I also presume that a number of Standard Notes users are also Proton users, crossing their fingers for Standard Notes to integrate into the Proton ecosystem.

But I agree, Notesnook has much for features in their free plan compared to Standard Notes, which is just a glorified text editor in the free version.

0xsigsev Anytype can offer a lot of that for free, 1GB storage, no registration.

What do you use for file management? I find most apps missing basic functionality coming from iOS. For example, no way of merging pdf files or deleting duplicates.

area51 what is the purpose of doing a factory reset after each grapheneOS update ?

grayway2 It's my way of making sure nothing is left behind from an app I may have downloaded and removed. I just like the idea the OS being pristine, that's all. Its helpful that I may just have GrapheneOS and one, possibly two apps installed at most, so its easy to perform.

area51 That sounds completely paranoid and overkill to me.

BaronAfanas to you yes, to me no, there are no rules to how I use GrapheneOS

area51 That's right.

area51 using your phone as s phone, that is okay, it is designed for it. But entrusting your desktop with all your private information, is that wise? Do you also factory reset it after every update? By the way, you don't use Qubes, do you? No offence, just asking.

DeletedUser127 But entrusting your desktop with all your private information, is that wise?

Why not? I am genuinely interested in your view on this. I know what some people here say about potential attack surface with for example Linux etc. and that graphene may be in a better 'shape' to defend against various attacks, but do you really think a phone would be better than a desktop that would be tailored to ones needs?

DeletedUser127 ha ha ha, I am not about to bash you over the head with Qubes..
I used it, its a right pain in the ass for daily use, unless you are under the microscope of a 3 letter agency.
I presently use live user, Kicksecure on a USB stick or Tails, whichever USB stick comes out of the drawer first.. Several of my laptops don't have HDD installed!
I do have a laptop with Debian installed, but its the host for Whonix on a VM
Stuff I want to keep safe is on Encrypted USB sticks and External HDD's. I don't trust the internet at all, keeping it at a reasonable distance is what I do, you may say paranoid, I' d say careful...

0xsigsev Compared to a phone running GOS, I'd agree, I trust GOS more than other desktop OS.
But desktops vary wildly, if you want pure security, Windows or ChromeOS (note, pure security, not privacy), ChromeOS is the easiest for security, especially with APP, Windows can be configured to be just as hard to breach as ChromeOS, but it requires an enterprise license and systems admin knowledge.

For privacy, I'd trust something like Fedora, even Ubuntu, yes it sends telemetry, but its not as bad as the other big 2.

I try keep sensitive stuff to a GOS device if I can (banking being a prime example).