British journalist facing years in prison for not giving his GOS Password

JollyRancher If you store a password on a piece of paper and the police find the paper and enter the password without you actively doing anything then it isn't you who destroyed evidence.

Really, so you have arrested a potential terrorist and they have an electronic device on their person, you have seized it, its in your hand in front of you, now do you press buttons to guess the password and potentially disappear in a huge explosion to only reappear as red mist raining out of the atmosphere into the crater that used to be the ground you were standing on, or do you just leave it the fuck alone place it in a container and get a lab to look at it, after it has been expertly assessed for explosives, etc..
Were talking real word here not NCIS on the TV.

DeletedUser64

LE are dumber than they appear.

As already mentioned by final, this message is to reiterate that the topic of this discussion should be kept technical, i.e., the technical capabilities of GrapheneOS.

treequell then allow me to reiterate what I have already said..."His phone is secure, anyone using GrapheneOS knows that."

This thread is purely theoretical. Of course, everyone should abide by the law. But anyone who has ever been targeted by investigators due to false information will be grateful for Graphene OS

horde
Oh, yeah I remember that laughable story 😂

I know this might seem a little bit unrealistic. Wouldn't it potentially be possible to say you simply forgot the pin or password to your phone? People forget their passwords, pin codes, wallets, bank details all the time. I'm just wondering would it be possible to play the fool here and say you simply cannot remember given the gravity and the stress of the situation? Surely it wouldn't be possible to prosecute somebody on something they simply cannot remember.

byteigcart Wouldn't it potentially be possible to say you simply forgot the pin or password to your phone?

If you are genuinely curious as to how that would play out in a specific legal jurisdiction, it might be productive to speak with an attorney licensed to practice in that jurisdiction.

Keep phone locked and get 5 years;
Open it and get 14;
HARD CHOICE

IksNorTen Yes but you can also be charged with destruction of evidence and face years in jail too?

Does the phone say that the duress code was entered? If not, then it was just a "malfunction".

secrec and you think that matters to LE in the UK (silent prayer)? As far as I am aware, they will take circumstantial evidence happily if it suits their case, provided that the technical ability is present on device (running GOS) and can be proven (by boot key hash). As it was already stated multiple times, the duress PIN is not a "get out of jail free" card. It's more of a "don't go for life because what is on the phone is worse".

Based on the experiences of a long (so far) life, I don’t think telling the police “fuck you” should be a crime.

Just my opinion.

Blastoidea Based on the experiences of a long (so far) life, I don’t think telling the police “fuck you” should be a crime.

Might not be a crime... what is certain, its not a good idea.

DeletedUser64
True, but I still don’t think it should ever be a crime.

Dumb, yes but crime, no.

akc3n

Sorry no my mistake it was meant to link to an NWA song on YouTube directly. I must have pasted the wrong link or formatted the link incorrectly. Any chance that post could be deleted? Thanks.

IksNorTen Are you a man of principle or do you cave in when pressured?

xuid0
It can just be edited to remove the part before the YouTube address at the end of the link and it works fine (unless xuid still wants it deleted). @akc3n