Is that true even if the download page linked above is completely static? I can see it would be able to see, for example, a Github releases page with a visibly new release but the Proton page doesn't ever change.

MotherShipton I was speaking about Obtainium in general and how it will notify a user when an app has an update available whether it be through GitHub or a website like APKMirror and APKPure (both of whom are track-only).

    zzz Okay thanks. I have had confirmation from proton that an apk download direct from them will not auto update so I either find a way to track the latest version number and manually update the app or use Aurora Store.

      ZeroCool Interesting and very useful resource. I have not come across that site before. I clicked the green link to add Proton Pass to my Obtanium.

      The link that Obtanium uses for the installation is the direct link from Proton page shown in my original post above. Perhaps that means that it can know when there is a new release even when the link address stays the same. I will have to try it and monitor the releases (Play store or Aurora) to verify.

      Thanks

          ZeroCool MotherShipton
          So when I add Proton Calendar or Proton Drive this way, the link is indeed to the Proton site where you can download the apks directly.

          This method gives me a weird version setup, though. If I look at the Proton Drive app info in Settings, I get the expected version (2.9.0). However, if I look at the version info in Obtainium, I get a string of numbers: 598415131 and the message that "a pseudo-version is in use."

          Obviously Obtainium (via that website) was able to add the correct version of Proton Drive. I'm just wondering why the Obtainium app itself lists that strange-looking version number and if there will be any problems going forward.

                tilion_silverbow I'm not sure of the "secret sauce" but I believe Obtainium is using some calc hash or similar to make this pseudo version and is able to use that to determine when the direct site is providing a newer version. I have been using this method for several app versions now and it seems to work well for getting new versions.

                    a month later

                    ZeroCool
                    So I just today discovered that the Proton apps I set up through Obtainium's website have not been updated since I added them. They are all a few versions behind what is on the Google play store.

                    Obtainium does not show any errors -- it seems as though it is monitoring the Proton apps website, but clearly not.

                    Can anyone confirm that their Proton apps are indeed getting updated via this method?

                        7 days later

                        tilion_silverbow I "want" to say you're right. I think I had to manually check on the other three proton apps that aren't available via github and use this other method. I'm semi sure that I'm fully up to date at the moment, but I'll double check and get back if I find that I am behind and not being offered updates via Obtainium.

                            9 days later
                            10 days later

                            tilion_silverbow Actually yes, but not very helpful I'm afraid. I did notice that if I "re-add" the three that aren't on github using the Add to obtainium from the apps.obtainium.imranr.dev site, it does then seem to notice there is a new version available. Bad news is, since it hasn't been much time since I did that, there haven't been any version updates to see if it will alert me this time around. I also do not know if re-adding the configs from the site just tricked it into finding them or if there is any at all different or updated about the configs themselves.

                            Like I said, not really that helpful.

                                5 days later

                                ZeroCool Yeah, I guess we'll just have to play the waiting game for when there are new versions available. I'll come back and report what happens whenever that occurs.

                                In the end, it isn't a super big deal -- I can just set a reminder to check the APKs manually once a week or something. But it would of course be nice to have this automated.

                                  The last time I tried to update the Proton apps using Obtainium by scrapping the Proton github pages, it was failing more often than not. Oftentimes Aurora Store would show me updates were available for the Proton apps while Obtainium wouldn't find anything even when checking manually. That was the case few months ago.

                                  Since then I've ditched Obtainium for Accrescent + Aurora Stora. While it's possible getting updates through Aurora is less secure than by Obtainium, it has been much more hassle free for me.

                                    krysor what are your criteria for comparing security of Obtainium vs Aurora?

                                        DeletedUser127

                                        That was my (possibly incorrect) conclusion from reading the forum posts.

                                        Also:

                                        Aurora Store has some issues of its own, and some of them overlap in fact with F-Droid. Aurora Store somehow still requires the legacy storage permission, has yet to implement certificate pinning, has been known to sometimes retrieve wrong versions of apps, and distributed account tokens over cleartext HTTP until fairly recently; not that it matters much since tokens were designed to be shared between users, which is already concerning.

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                                        Not sure how up to date that info is