Its in every app, scrolling just stutters... YouTube, telegram, basically anything that has "moving parts" just cant maintain stable 120hz throughout at least 1 flick of a finger, its very noticeable and can simply drive a person crazy. Latest build, brand new flagship phone and THIS crappy performance. They are not just frame rate drops but rather a couple-milisecond stutters after which it continues to run in 120 normally... "Apps aren't optimized" isnt an excuse because those same apps were working just fine on another device I had previously to buying a pixel.

    Nope. Everything is smooth and fast for me. No stutters.

    Don't know about the YouTube app, as I use Grayjay instead (far better not only featurewise, but also for privacy and anticensorship with the polycentric encrypted comments system & the harbor channel censorship prevention).

      Marcus are we using the same device? What can possibly go wrong so as to make it jittery and lagging? OS corrupting during the installation pricess? But I cleanly installed it and didnt even restore anything from backup.

        Sorry if I can't offer you an immediate solution.

        First of all: I have just checked it on a Pixel 8 Pro, Build 2024072800 with the following settings
        Settings> Display> Screen resolution> Full resolution and
        Settings> Display> Smooth Displayactivated

        Result: NewPipe, browser, map, RSS feeder - everything runs smoothly for me.

        Some additional information for troubleshooting would be helpful, for example:

        • When did the error occur, can you possibly identify a trigger?

        • The classic question: Have you restarted the device?

        • What happens when you change screen resolution and refresh rate?

          infinitieunique yes

          https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/337099051

          Google isn't doing anything. There was another issue marked as fixed before June release which resulted in 120 -> 60 fps in Wild Rift:
          https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/305195207#comment231
          https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/1ddzgp9/degraded_gaming_performance_after_june_update/

            Murcielago
            Sure:
            Settings > Display > Screen resolution is set to "full resolution" (not "high resolution")
            Settings > display > smooth display is activated (so the issue is NOT that I confuse 60 for 120 z like I've said its specifically the stutters that occur during the animation that bother me, its indeed set to 120)

            When did it occur

            As soon as I installed the OS (cleanly flashed using a web installer from another Pixel 3 device)

            Restarted

            Sure, how didn't it ever occur to me, that must do it! Just kidding, of cource I did, multiple times, the issue persists

            What happens when you change the screen resolution and refresh rate

            Wow, it now stutters the same way in the same places as before but now in lower resolution and lower refresh rate!

            Tested in:

            YouTube revanced (when scrolling through videos and even comments which is hard to believe considering that processing power of Tensor G3 should be more than enough to render static text in perfect 120 fps as you scroll through it, yet it stutters)

            K9 mail

            Aurora store

            Spotify

            SoundCloud

            Google Play Store

            Telegram client (cherrygram)

            Google Maps

            KurobaEx

            Files app (ducumentsUI, a default android system-level integrated file explorer)

              Jdjdoefndbej Thanks for the only helpful answer here... People who don't notice it prolly don't have many apps installed so they never encounter it but it doesn't mean its not there

              Jdjdoefndbej was this issue ever not present on early versions of the stock os or graphene, I'm beginning to suspect that all I need to do is downgrade. I'll do anything just to get rid of that never ending laghell

                Jdjdoefndbej oh well, that sucks big time. Guess were in a wasted money club togather, man... Its going to be just like with any other smartphone... Android 16 comes out, Pixel 9 comes out and then you are suddenly being told that your phone "isnt flagship" anymore and that you should just buy a new one, because expecting it to work normally is "asking too much" from a fricking thing that you wasted $800+ on... Every god damn time, just you watch. What's even more bugging is that people are going to gaslight you about it and say that they don't have this issue. Same people who don't use apps heavier than gallery

                  infinitieunique there are a lot of speed tests on YouTube where you can clearly see how Pixel lags. Even compared to some old chip devices like Nothing Phone 2 or old Samsung flagships. Don't think it was wasted money because Graphene is great. But the fact that the most expensive phone from Google cannot run smoothly on Google OS for almost a year is simply ridiculous.

                  Someone in the issue on Google's issuetracker asked for logs and screen recordings again today. As if the screen recordings that were posted earlier or on YouTube weren't enough. Like put a Snapdragon phone next to a Pixel and just scroll for a second. Pathetic

                    infinitieunique This is absolutely not the way to respond to someone genuinely trying to help you.

                    I understand you're upset, but no, almost nobody seems to be experiencing this, and no, it's not because you're magically running "heavier" apps than most other users.

                    For you to have such a significantly worse performance than basically everyone else, something sounds very wrong, you're testing this on YouTube, that's not a heavy app, that's not normal.

                    You mentioned something about app optimization and that it doesn't matter because it doesn't happen on stock. GrapheneOS works differently, it does AOT (ahead-of-time) compilation of apps and while that's happening (a notification is present while it's ongoing), things are probably going to run slower, but if you're having slowness after that, it doesn't at all seem related to GrapheneOS, it honestly sounds like faulty hardware.

                    Again, I understand you're frustrated, but the way you've gone about this really isn't productive and won't help you find any kind of solution.

                      matchboxbananasynergy

                      Faulty hardware

                      Sorry but even if that's the case, I fail to see why. Bought a new phone, full price, checked it via IMEI on Google's official website (the color of the back did indeed match the color I see on a website), visual inspection also returned the negative result (it had no wear, no scratches, no visible defects).

                      YouTube Revanced (scrotting through STATIC TEXT comments has lag):
                      https://drive.google.com/file/d/14zX-IIO6zcRJSAcwvU25KAQpHSZI0XVF/view?usp=drivesdk

                      https://drive.google.com/file/d/150gQpeN01z7t1GeNWqaBbxcWBy2NZ4NY/view?usp=drivesdk

                        matchboxbananasynergy

                        Graphene is great

                        Sure, only still doesn't alleviate the taste of shit in my mouth from knowing that budget xiaomi phones all my acquaintances have are going mog my unapologetically expensive piece of Samsung Exynos crap in real world use.
                        Tho, knowing that your phone will not record you 24/7 and record app-opening stats to then send it to google and Chinese god-knows-who's (unless you ask it to) does put my mind at ease a bit. Its just that the correct way of doing it would have been to wait until google switches to tsmc and until their devices are tested with real world use.

                        YouTube videos

                        How come? They're all in 60 hz, its incredibly hard to tell lag in that refresh rate and on a video (its much more apparent when you actually interact with the interface)... Any specific channel recommendations?

                          infinitieunique

                          It would be helpful if you could quote a bit more accurately. This makes it easier and more straightforward to understand arguments and approaches of others. For example:

                          Graphene is great

                          seems to be by Jdjdoefndbej and not matchboxbananasynergy .

                          and i can't easyliy attribute your quote

                          YouTube videos

                          to someone.

                          That said, i think matchboxbananasynergy idea that it could be faulty hardware is quite plausible.

                          Have you tried to compare your device with an identical one? Maybe you have a friend with the same device or you can go to your local phone dealer and compare it side by side.

                          infinitieunique

                          I am no expert, but you mention using youtube revanced - so I checked their website and noticed

                          "Users must also have the original YouTube app installed on their device to use ReVanced, as it uses some of the same components as the official app"

                          Not sure if this could be an issue

                          The site mentions Micro G also - does revanced require Micro G to run on the phone ?

                          I've never used revanced - so am inquiring ?

                          Thanks,

                          Reading all of it, I'm at the point to say it's very likely a hardware defect. That you bought from Google and got an authentic device doesn't guarantee this is not a rare case of a malfunction, a "Monday product" as we call it over here.

                          I'd be very frustrated if my top of the shelf device I paid good money for is underwhelming in performance. But since nobody else here (including me, I'm in fact very happy with my 8 pro) seems to have your issue, it's likely to be either your setup or your hardware. Your setup so far seems fine, no suspicious or unique apps you've told us about. And if it malfunctions right since your first setup (and you didn't mess with e.g. developer options, adb, system app permissions etc.) all I can come up with is a hardware defect.

                          If I were you, I'd flash back stock OS and send the device back to google, asking for a replacement device.

                          If you did mess with any critical things, I'd restore the default state (or do a factory reset since that might be easier) and try again.

                          infinitieunique yes, same device (8 pro). I'm also on full res, 120hz, etc...

                          I also have a 120hz Samsung Galaxy S with a Qualcomm snapdragon CPU (on stock Samsung firmware) to compare. -> The pixel is absolutely perfect.

                          As others have recommended above, in your case I would also reflash the stock ROM to send it back for a replacement.

                            Marcus what can possibly be wrong with the smartphone on a hardware level that would make it do this? System menus (like notification area and app drawer) are on the other hand smooth and don't experience this...