Is it possible to say which of these two phones is the more secure?
An EOL, unsupported Pixel 5 running GrapheneOS, or a Pixel 8 running the stock OS with no Facebook, or anything similar.
Is it possible to say which of these two phones is the more secure?
An EOL, unsupported Pixel 5 running GrapheneOS, or a Pixel 8 running the stock OS with no Facebook, or anything similar.
You answered the question for yourself.
Well, if I did, I missed where.
Blastoidea 'unsupported', so the Pixel 8 is a much, much, much better choice
For security, the Pixel 8 with stock rom. If you care about privacy more, then the eol pixel 5 with graphene.
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Thank you.
[deleted] Both can run GOS, so why not the pixel 8 for both use cases?
raccoondad
I’m not ready to do that yet.
Blastoidea I'm confused, how so?
raccoondad Because author specifically said that the pixel 8 is running Stock.
[deleted] For security, the Pixel 8 with stock rom. If you care about privacy more, then the eol pixel 5 with graphene.
The final objective of security is privacy.
bookreader
That’s an interesting idea.
I’ll have a think about it.
bookreader No. They are entirely different concepts.
lambd Everything can be seen how you want. But security's final objective is not privacy. You can have both ideally, but they are very different.
lambd Yes.
Privacy is the PURPOSE of security, so you feel free to look at this however you like, but you can't separate them. Security without privacy is not security at all. Privacy without security is being delusional.
Privacy and security have some relation in terms of confidentiality, but it's neither the same, nor a superset, nor a subset.
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_security :
While similar to "privacy," the two words are not interchangeable. Rather, confidentiality is a component of privacy that implements to protect our data from unauthorized viewers.
Yes, security and privacy are two different things, but in practice, you can combine the two for better results. In both cases, one without the other, you increase the attack surface, without security, your privacy cannot be trustworthy, without privacy, your security is overrated.