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ErnestThornhill

missing-root Like I said, give the website a read through and you'll have all of the ins and outs of the app instead of assumptions and speculations.

TRInvictus

Hello,

How is it intended to report issues, bugs, change requests, ideas, etc. for GOS here? I've noticed there's very few tags in the discussions, "general" and "development", so is it supposed to use "development" for any kind?

Please advise.
Thank you & best regards

other8026

TRInvictus the issue trackers, usually the OS Issue tracker. Check out https://grapheneos.org/contact#reporting-issues

mrtoo

bayesian There is an unofficial simpleX group. It is public and quite active.

TRInvictus

Thank you for the information, I missed reading/keeping that in mind, I'm sorry.
So issues, change requests, etc. posted here in this forum, are generally being ignored? At least by GOS "officials"?

other8026

TRInvictus not ignored. I suppose the best way to answer this is there are a lot of people who make requests, but very few who help actually work on and maintain features.

Some features would be added if done well by community members. The project developers are busy with other high priority privacy and security improvements.

akc3n

TRInvictus So issues, change requests, etc. posted here in this forum, are generally being ignored?

No, we do not ignore them. However, if you take a look at how we structure our tags on the forum here https://discuss.grapheneos.org/tags verses the labels on our os-issue-tracker https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/labels you may notice that the actual work is all done via our GitHub.

For example, feature requests are labelled as enhancements here https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/labels/enhancement

So, the appropriate platform to attempt to do a feature request/enhancement, would be where our developers are primarily spending their time, which is GitHub.

Please, always search our issue trackers prior to opening a new issue, more than likely there is a similar one already, and this avoids duplicates.

At least by GOS "officials"?

We may discuss these matters in user posted threads, redirect to proper issue-trackers on our project, link to specific issue #'s, etc.

Edit: Meant to start of by saying that I'm adding onto what other8026 already mentioned.

Makrus

I've never used Matrix, but would like to join the platform. Trying to register with Element isn't working for me. When I go to enter graphene.os as the server, it says registration has been disabled. Am I doing something wrong?

other8026

Makrus the GrapheneOS matrix server doesn't have open registration. You'd want to register an account elsewhere then join the GrapheneOS rooms from that account. Many people use the matrix.org homeserver, including myself.

You can try registering at https://app.element.io then join the community after you make an account.

The community address: https://matrix.to/#/%23community:grapheneos.org or search #community:grapheneos.org and then join from there.

TRInvictus

@akc3n @other8026
Thank you both for replying. I do comprehend, sadly there aren't enough very very smart guys out there able, and willing, to contribute to GOS.
And hey we all do understand you're working hard and foccussed on "IPC control" we're all soooo much looking forward to :-) Thank you all for your work, very much appreciated!

Hat

I seen on the social X some profiles are taken by the project to avoid impersonators. Is there some kind of signature to prove a profile is genuine ?

other8026

Hat Official accounts are listed on the website here: https://grapheneos.org/contact#contacting-the-project

Hat

other8026 Yes this remains the easier solution without the need of any technical skills.

riddlemethis

GrapheneOS I guess I'm going to have to ask why XMPP isn't in the list, and why it wasn't chosen over Matrix and Discord?

ErnestThornhill

@riddlemethis Their reasoning for not using XMPP was explained (in detail) on Mastodon when they first announced their decision for adding Discord to the list.

missing-root

Very understandable decision.

I think Matrix, SimpleX and XMPP with proper defaults be reliable and only private options.

Matrix is overcomplex compared to XMPP and SimpleX is the most private. As you mentioned spam I dont recommend a publicly announced SimpleX group as the purpose of SimpleX is "no identifiers" which would make fighting Spam impossible.

onigino

still using reddit, works great

PMUSR

Never used Matrix before. How to use it? What client to use? Does it require phone number or email to use it?

Dumdum

PMUSR
This is the main one. However it requires an email address. You could simply use a throwaway email, but if you absolutely don't want to use email, you can look at these suggestions from leafnose instead.

nemo

Is there a link to the mastodon thread on why discord was chosen over xmpp as a matrix replacement?

Last I checked, xmpp scales pretty well with users relative to matrix.

One con I can see is with xmpp you can't delete messages, but outside of that, xmpp has a pretty robust moderation system.

riddlemethis

nemo yeah there was no helpful links shared, so after manually hunting it down, all I could find was a Matrix article linked in Mastodon citing mutual similarities. No explicit XMPP commentaries that I saw

XMPP is still a great potential IMO

other8026

nemo One con I can see is with xmpp you can't delete messages

I was not a member of the moderation team when it was decided. I was not involved in any discussions about it, so keep this in mind. I have also never used XMPP so I know virtually nothing about it.

However, if deleting messages isn't supported, that would be an instant deal breaker if you ask me. It's just not acceptable to leave certain things up for the whole community to see.

There are many people who've moved to Discord and many have said that they moved to Discord because it's a better experience overall.

Many people have issues with Discord because they don't want to provide their phone number. I personally signed up while connected to a VPN, I used a SimpleLogin email alias, and I haven't been asked for a phone number. Servers can set their "verification level" to "highest" (documentation), which would require that members provide their phone number, but our server doesn't have it set up that way.

Regardless, all of this isn't all that important considering all messages are still bridged across Discord, Matrix, Telegram, and IRC. Feel free to pick your favorite and participate from there.

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