Foggy
Hi Thanks for taking time for the steps.
I did below steps:
Create a new profile
Go to ‘install available apps’. Select Aurora Store
used gos app to install "google play services" in sandboxed"
Start Aurora, accept all the defaults, grant permissions, login as anonymous
Search for Lloyds Bank, select ‘Lloyds Bank Mobile Banking’, install (now it’s version 127.01)
tired to log in but same result and i didn't get "authenticating your device"
Thanks
ntop Interesting. So you don’t get ‘authenticating device’ but you get a ‘login or open an account’ screen. When you go to login what happens? Normally it asks for user id and password, then a second screen asking for 3 letters of security information. Do you get those screens or does it fail before you’ve entered the full login information?
(On first time setup they also called me and asked me to enter the code shown on the screen into the phone call. Not sure if that’s because I’ve not used mobile banking with them before)
When you receive a warning from your banking app indicating that your device may be insecure, jailbroken, or rooted, this is usually due to a SafetyNet/Play Integrity API issue. Specifically, your device fails to pass MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY.
For more details, see the planned feature on this topic at the GrapheneOS issue tracker: Issue #1986.
As of now, there are no direct solutions available to users. However, you can help by contacting your bank. Inform them of this issue and suggest they refer to the GrapheneOS Attestation Compatibility Guide for their developers, available here: Attestation Compatibility Guide.
bookreader The problem with that model is you always need a trusted third-party to custody the gold for everyone, and that trust has been broken time and time again throughout history.
I can confirm that the app version 128.02 is also not functioning, displaying the same error: "Sorry, you can't use this app as we've detected that your device has been jailbroken/rooted. You can still use our Mobile Banking or Internet Banking sites via your web browser."
As previously mentioned by akc3n, this is due to an API issue where your device fails the MEETS_DEVICE_INTEGRITY check.
The only recourse is to persistently contact your bank's technical support, urging them to address the issue by adhering to GrapheneOS's Attestation Compatibility Guide - highly unlikely that they will do that as they don't care about our existence.
It seems that in the future, they may restrict access to only Google Chrome on a Windows mobile phone :)))
pacemaker Why not Embarras them on Twitter?
mhbcrypto Why do you need a 3rd party to store your gold? I don't. The 3rd party storage problem comes when you are dealing with proxy currencies. I.e. paper money that represents gold held by a 3rd party.
I hadn’t started Lloyds since posting in this thread and now I get, when it does ‘authenticating your device’:
9300101: Sorry, we have de-registered your device as we’ve detected it’s been jailbroken/rooted. You will not be able to use the app but you can continue to use our mobile site.
If I ‘try again’ I get:
App launch failed
Sorry, we’re having a few technical problems. Logging in again may fix the issue, but if this doesn’t help, please try again later. (7)
If I try the app installed in a blank profile as per the instructions above it asks me to login (didn’t do it on that app before) then a similar message (9300100, “Sorry, you can’t use this app as we’ve detected that your device has been jailbroken/rooted…”
So looks like I fired whatever tripwire there is in the app.
I ended up extracting Lloyds apk version 126.01 (installed from Aurora and works fine) from my Pixel 7 Pro to install it on my new Pixel 8 Pro as Pixel 8 Pro gets the latest, non-working version from Aurora by default.
So currently running the 126.01 and will not update for time being.
DeletedUser28
Starling Bank app has been working for me ever since I joined GrapheneOS probably 2-3 years ago. Exception being the Google Pay functionality. I contacted them in 2021 to confirm whether they use SafetyNet but they refused to divulge that information. I don't know whether I should contact them pro-actively and point them to the attestation page, as it's been working well so far.
I wonder what they'd offer as a backup option because you can't do online banking (in browser) without the app. And they don't have physical branches either.
By the way, I saw in the app changelog that they are now dropping support for Android 5. So hopefully it's going to be a while until they enforce strict "safety" checks that are not supported by older devices
DeletedUser28
They have a developer community on Slack, wonder if that is an area to get more information indirectly. Not sure they would offer an alternative but given they support old Android OSes hopefully we're good for another few years.
I am also using Starling app and have no issues at all - installed it in my work profile with sandboxed Google Play services installed and it works like a charm, the latest version downloaded from Aurora Store. I didn't do any workarounds like I did with the Lloyds app.
Even without Play Services it works perfectly, just without notifications.
