GrapheneOS without SIM? Signal alternative?

sebastianha

have you a voip provider to recommend?

sebastianha Problem: In the past you would need the same number to switch the phone or restore a backup. But if you still have access to your old phone you can change your Signal number to a new temporary one and then use this to register the new phone. But this does not help you in case the old phone is broken and you need a backup.

is it the case when make a new acc? if a provider is just i dont have a number at all.

Matth

so i ges the best way is to teach how to do it right. its difficult if the person isnt interesstet to lissen.

bartenderstoneware If you use a trial account (with a fake email) it will be closed after 14 days or so. The next time you register your old number might not be available.

Sorry, no voip service I can recommend right now, but I am sure you find one somewhere

DevilsDueRebellion

The IVPN Hardened mode DNS sound interessting. so auroa store isnt an option. i cant geht the link running aniway.

i think to use tor is the best option for me.

DevilsDueRebellion It all comes down to which you prefer to trust. There are always pros and cons to either choice.

this is true and not so easy to get to the right, becouse we live in a time in ther people trust almost all big parties or dont care. and if you will still be able to connect it is important to keep that in mind.

like signal is a good option and you get it runnig with a burner id, but your close ones are safe you conntact with your real name. so it is most likly better to use a service that present that, like you mentionet simpleX Chat.

thank you for all your answers on my treads.

Harald

optainium looks like a interessting option.

Harald This could apply to any app from anywhere. If his threat model includes a malicious developer, stolen signing keys, etc, there is really no other choice but to read the source code and compile himself. What if I did not trust the developers of GrapheneOS?

i think you have to trust the people involvt, the people they reviewed the code and that they protection himself good enough and when sey get compromist, they have to be onest about it.

and then you chose the option that is most like the best.

sebastianha

okay thank you i think i will try another apps that dont require a phone number

Harald
How do you got Obtainium working?
I tryed it in the past and today and got the same error code:
"There was a problem while parsing the package."

For me, changing the .zip to .apk isn't working.

I can recommend simpleX as well.

Harald
I think if you really want to make sure, reading (and understanding) source code and compiling it yourself on a clean computer is the only option.

After all, wasn't that special ANOM device in fact an FBI device? Not implying anything at all, but couldn't a project like Graphene be a secret initiative from a powerful state player too?

Schiller Obtainium only works when the developer is releasing the APK in their github, gitlab, etc. It will not do the compiling for you.

If you care about privacy you can consider using i2p network and fork of Conversations, links below.
You don’t need any phone number to register a UUID.
There are more advantages to Signal but one is worth to highlight here.

Using xmpp + omemo (Conversations) you can get all messages on all your mobile devices. Signal/Molly allows you to have only one mobile device registered.

Add:
i2pd repo:
https://fdroid.i2pd.xyz/

Then install

i2pd, Conversations-i2p

You can set up an account here: xmpp.ilita.i2p

The best solution is to set up own xmpp server. It is super easy if you have capability and money resources to buy Pixel and install GOS.
There is a ton of tutorials in the internet to do that.

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If you want to browse i2p network I recommend:
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.stoutner.privacybrowser.standard/

I use this browser for Tor and clearnet as well. It is very customizable.