since you are installing a new ROM on the phone. is their any benefit for the pro vs the non-pro or is it a pointless upgrade?
I am very new to custom ROMs and do not know how much is remaining compared to the stock

    • c86

      • Post #2

      Well, you get a better camera on the pro line. You can use GCam as well, so you get the benefits. It's honestly pretty close to the GOS camera but there's some stuff GCam does that the GOS cam doesn't.

      There's also the vapor chamber for cooling. Probable just a quality of life thing that you'll never notice, but it's there.

      supaginge Please note that GrapheneOS is not a ROM and is not custom. It's an operating system.

      I am very new to custom ROMs and do not know how much is remaining compared to the stock

      That terminology isn't correct and we avoid the term "custom" "ROM" because it makes things sound inaccessible, non-production-ready and isn't technically correct. GrapheneOS is a production quality OS which only supports devices with official support for running an alternate OS.

          So the benefits like the better screen adaptive refresh rate and so on should work properly and only downside would be like Google pay being fucky with payment cards but loyalty and transport still work?

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            akc3n Android is a OS, iOS is a OS. The Android version that includes Google at Pixel Phones is a OEM ROM based on Android. HyperOS/MIUI, the Android version that includes Xiaomi at Xiaomi phones are a OEM ROM based on Android. LineageOS is a custom ROM (in opposite to OEM ROM due to LineageOS devels are not manufacturing any device). The same is GrapheneOS, crDroid and all others... in my opinion, of course.

            This is also applicable to Ubuntu, debian, etc that are versions of Unix/Linux but not specific Operating Systems.

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                • Dde0u

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                  cdflasdkesalkjfkdfkjsdajfd This is also applicable to Ubuntu, debian, etc that are versions of Unix/Linux but not specific Operating Systems.

                  But people don't typically refer to their "Ubuntu ROM" or their "Debian ROM".

                  Many years ago phones had a single image that could more or less plausibly be referred to as a "ROM image". But if you flash GrapheneOS from the command line you will see that it is made up of several images. And, like Debian or Ubuntu, the OS running on devices is backed up by a server infrastructure that is part of the OS and definitely has nothing to do with "ROM".

                  When automobiles came out, people referred to them as "horseless carriages", which in a sense they were, but only if squinting really hard.

                  Calling GrapheneOS a "ROM" is like calling a Bentley a "horseless carriage", and also like calling Ubuntu a "ROM".

                    • c86

                      • Post #7

                      supaginge

                      You got it. You can use Google Wallet for those things, there's also another App called Catima for loyalty cards / tickets etc. I had one issue where a QR code couldn't be scanned and the associated code had to be manually entered, but I haven't had issues other than that one time.

                          c86 what about things like prepaid cards such as the Japan suica cards(with JP pixels)

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                              • c86

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                                supaginge

                                No idea about those, sorry. Basically NFC payment isn't going to work with Google Wallet. I believe payments will work with native banking apps if they offer it, if your cards have their own app that offers the service, you may luck out.

                                If you decide to test it out but it doesn't work and you need it for your quality of life, you can follow the bottom of the install guide to revert to stock Android. It's fairly easy to go between the OS' if needed just follow the web-install instructions always.

                                You could also try asking in one of the other community rooms - discord or matrix. Someone there may know for you.