I've been doing some research, his team is very related to the world of privacy with activists like Chelsea Manning. Is this VPN reliable or could it be a honeypot?
What do you think about Nym VPN?
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Just looked at their website, offers 30 days free.
But I'm not going to use it, not knowing what the price plans are! not going to register without knowing plan costs.
A lot of shady stuff on that website:
NymVPN is the only VPN built to make you truly anonymous in what you do online.
Nym hides your metadata, protecting your traffic privacy in ways that other VPNs can't, in addition to protecting the confidentiality of your data.
They are most definitely not the only VPN that can ping you around different nodes to make it harder to figure out who you are. Proton even has that, I believe.
Also as Plobberfroth mentioned, I'm not registering to see the pricing. It's not happening.
I think it's shady that they hide their price and also throw around complicated buzzwords to say nothing at all. Much of the text reads to me like AI generated nonsense created to sound smart.
But assuming this wasn't the case and Nym was potentially the very best VPN service out there. I still wouldn't use it (yet) because they lack the most important factor: A good track record.
We can hardly prove whether a VPN service logs your actions or gives away identifying data to third parties. Over time, it will become more reliable to judge one way or the other.
Mullvad, IVPN and Proton VPN have this track record and I don't see any reason to choose Nym over them for now.
Regarding the price (if current): https://support.nym.com/hc/en-us/articles/31880660962577-What-is-the-price-of-NymVPN
Regarding the registration, there’s no real registration per se, they use a system of tokens: https://nym.com/account/create
An access code is generated, and you’re good to go, without having entered any information at all. Hard to do better than this.
Leafnose,
Nah not convinced
Plobberfroth
Not convinced of what? I’m just showing that some people are too hasty when responding, which seems to be your case.
The Nym project is not new, but I am not informed well enough to answer OP’s question in a knowledgeable and useful manner. My opinion is that if it’s a honeypot, it’s a pretty elaborate one.
It seems to take time to grasp the whole thing behind the Nym network, but it looks promising.
For people interested:
Official launch date: https://nym.com/blog/nymvpn-official-launch-2025
Forum: https://forum.nym.com/
Matrix: #nym:matrix.org
NYM claim to be the only built VPN to make you anonymous in what you do online BUT anonymity is never guaranteed at 100℅
For me, NYM is very similar to the TOR network.
When your run a tor relay or a node if you want, you do it for free, you get in the better days a thank you or a T-shirt from the tor project
NYM don't own nodes but rather rewards individuals or entities by running their own node in the nym network with nym tokens.
Currently there is around 1000 nodes in nym network
Tor has over 6000 nodes
A fast 2 hops connection before reaching the exit node
In TOR network if an entity runs the entry node and the exist node of your connection through the network it's game over for you. It's the same problem with the 2 hops connection from NYM
You can choose to route your traffic by 5 independent servers to reduce the risk of your connection to be comprised but you'll have to be OK with a very slow network
They are just trying to build a better version of the tor network from what I see
As for me, I will stay with mullvad VPN for now. But maybe I'll give a try to NYM later
FlipSid
Maybe I’m too old school, but my only aim was to answer OP’s question, which is about the potential honeypot, and not about the well-established competition.
If I understand correctly what Nym is, its decentralised and collaborative nature can be enough to distinguish it from the apparent competition. It seems to be closer to the TOR network than the typical VPN service. There’s also the community side of it, although it can look like a cult at first sight, or indeed, something shady, related to commercial blockchain.
The account creation process and the lack of XMR for ProtonVPN may disqualify it in the eyes of many people.
What would be the difference between a dVPN as opposed to a regular VPN connected to TOR?
DeletedUser200 They have also got Snowden talking for them:
https://youtu.be/YnyscVTygOs?si=ox2H_V9bzypLROt-&t=904
grayway2 You can choose to route your traffic by 5 independent servers to reduce the risk of your connection to be comprised but you'll have to be OK with a very slow network
Actually, routing through more than 3 nodes does not improve anonymity any further, as the largest risk at that point is if the attacker control both your first and last hop, in which case they can deanonymize you reliably regardless of number of nodes in between. That is the case for Tor, it would definitely apply for Nym as well if they too do onion routing.
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You can't pay in the web browser, just loading info with no JavaScript. An app must be downloaded to see pricing information.
Can anyone create a node? What is to stop governments from creating 100 honeypot nodes? Governments have contracted others to do similar things before.
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Oh, there's a link someone posted and it's free right now in beta. No info on price out of beta.
I went through their page, some of the entries in their blog plus looked over some of the people involved (technical ones not "pr" related) and I have mixed feelings (pun not intended).. From one side it does look promising based on the concept of mixed networks but the fact they have their own "crypto tokens" makes me feel like they may pull some stupid shit to gain profits via the crypto scam..
While they're few years in (6+) their VPN is still in early alpha, so there's not much to base opinion on.. I'd wait for an actual data proving how this works in practice, not another AI sales pitch..
DeletedUser200
From their web page the NYM team
Alexis Roussel; Alexis is Nym's COO and co-founder.
Before Nym, he established Bity, a Swiss crypto brokerage
and financial services firm,
Ania Piotrowska; She also explores blockchain in the context
of cryptocurrency privacy.
Ben Laurie; Currently, he works at Google as a Principal Engineer.
so a direct link to crypto currency a G**gle engineer and a new "all singing all dancing" secure VPN and its free for now.. Its just too much to believe, I think I will pass on Nym, that's my gut instinct
Hi, happy to answer any questions you have about NymVPN. Disclosure: I work at Nym Technologies.
Plobberfroth not going to register without knowing plan costs.
@Plobberfroth we launched our paid version a couple of weeks ago. You can check pricing at nym . com / pricing.
wuseman They are most definitely not the only VPN that can ping you around different nodes to make it harder to figure out who you are. Proton even has that, I believe.
@wuseman Indeed Proton does offer a multi-hop setup (not by default though). NymVPN offers 2 modes, both a multi-hop VPN, and our signature "mixnet" mode. This mode does aim to hide your metadata, something typical VPNs do not offer.
N1b I think it's shady that they hide their price
@N1b As a new product, we were in a free beta mode. We launched our paid version on March 13.
N1b Over time, it will become more reliable to judge one way or the other.
Indeed, trust is built over time! To jump start that trust, feel free to have a look around our Trust Center, which provides info about our open source code (server and clients), security audits, university partnerships, peer-reviewed papers, and more.
FlipSid in the end one question would still remain why one would, or should, use them over Mullvad, IVPN or Proton?
Indeed! Trust will be built over time, and it's up for everyone to try. Get 5 or 10 years back in time: Why one would, or should, use Mullvad, IVPN or Proton? And yet...
ryrona Actually, routing through more than 3 nodes does not improve anonymity any further, as the largest risk at that point is if the attacker control both your first and last hop, in which case they can deanonymize you reliably regardless of number of nodes in between.
@ryrona while we respect Tor a lot, the mixnet is built with a different architecture. Nym is not just "adding another 2 nodes". Packets are onion-encrypted, and also delayed and mixed with cover traffic to further improve the privacy properties of the network.
angela Can anyone create a node? What is to stop governments from creating 100 honeypot nodes?
Anyone (including you!) can run a node. Nodes can (and will be) run by governments. Limiting these behaviours is done by actively managing our community of operators, and making use of the mechanisms described in the “Reward sharing for mixnets” article (“costs” to setup a node + a reputation system). Limiting the impact of this is done by being multi-hop by default (so one node doesn’t see both your IP address and the destination of your traffic – which is not the case of single-hop VPNs). Users can also limit that by frequently rotating the nodes they use.
In the future we plan to include mechanisms to detect active attacks and penalize/exclude nodes found to engage in active malicious behavior, as well as to limit opportunities for passive (undetectable) malicious behavior through the use of secure hardware.
area51 so a direct link to crypto currency a G**gle engineer and a new "all singing all dancing" secure VPN and its free for now.. Its just too much to believe
The Nym founders also comprise renown computer scientists and cryptographers (MIT/Inria, KU Leuven). Ania Piotrowska designed the "Loopix Anonymity System", the communication system from which Nym originates, and which was presented in 2017 at the USENIX Security Symposium, a renown security conference. The advisory board comprises (co-)designers of cryptography all of us use (ChaCha, TLS 1.3, etc.).
nym-product Do you have any ideas on how to protect yourself against this?
I pointed to the LEA risk in this thread (expand by dots). I generally criticize VPNs for misleading users. Nym seems very innovative to me though and address a lot of the issues that could be pointed out. I hope Mullvad, Proton, and IVPN will also change their infrastructure in line with yours solution.