Why Privacy?

DeletedUser232

Because organizations does not give us back enough. They monitor and collects data about us but what do we gain for giving them our data? Surveillance capitalism is a one-sided profit based on advertisements and it does nothing good for its customers. Big organizations are slow and dumb and the services they provide sucks in simple words. So that is why one would ultimately prefer privacy than leaking data all over the internet. Apple does a niche job but their ecosystem isn't fully capable of supporting their users. And too much telemtry still exists anyways. Nobody asked companies / organizations to monitor themselves for the whole life. In the other side, GrapheneOS is an effortlessness operating system in terms of privacy and security. Installation is simpler than any other OS and with a few click on the Settings you'll be protected with the world's most secure and private OS. It's genuinely better than removing bloatware apps or using firewalls, etc.

de0u

DeletedUser232 Big organizations are slow and dumb and the services they provide sucks in simple words.

Perhaps... yet for some reason many people use Google Maps...or Waze...

Stayjuice

lcalamar ask your friend if it would be okay to install cctv in their home so you can watch them on a live feed and say “well you have nothing to hide so why not”

DeletedUser227

de0u yes, two groups, those who have no idea and those who don't care.

avaluedcustomer

lcalamar Ask them why they have curtains on their bedroom. Ask them why they close the door in the locker room when they change clothes. Ask them why they close the door when they go to the restrooms Ask them why they keep bank statements hidden from other people. Ask them about that locked drawer in their bedroom, that nobody else is allowed to open. Ask them if they would let you read their diary.

All that is done because those people want privacy. So, why do they care for privacy in "real live", but don't in their "online live"?

userplaystore

Why Privacy? Because the Big players don't give a shit.

DeletedUser495

userplaystore actually Big Players give a lot of $ about your data, hence privacy.

DeletedUser203

userplaystore why privacy?
Privacy is how I want to reveal myself to the online world, not, what's left of my data after big tech has pillaged my device, and sold my data without my consent...
Security, is how I keep big tech fu#kers out of my device in the first place..

DeletedUser495

DeletedUser495 seems like Youtube frontends have gone dark again. Youtube being Google's child seems to have an uquencheable thirst same as its parent to track you around the web, hence I make a promise to ditch Youtube for good. You should by now understand my disgust at the sight of this weird family, even if sandboxed, they will not be visiting my phone no more.

raccoondad

DeletedUser495

YouTube front ends send a similar amount of information to YouTube as a non-signed in web app version of YouTube.com

YouTube's concern with front ends is their capacity to take stream data without the built in ad player.

This is a very obvious problem to both creators and YouTube themselves and has way less to do with analytics and way more with AdSense.

I'm not saying people are wrong or right for using such software, I do myself, but you are acting very surprised over the fact pirating streams would be attacked by Google.

Keep in mind ads effects music, streamers, even smaller content creators, pretty much what keeps YouTube up as a service. There's a very understandable reason from google for preventing this, even if most people are fine with pirating anyways (again, myself included.)

Just to note: I found newpipe still works for me, but acted a little funky late into the night. I'll experiment again today.

Edit: newpipe still works, using mobile data. Results may very

de0u

DeletedUser203 Security, is how I keep big tech fu#kers out of my device in the first place..

Personally I'm not thinking that Apple or Meta or Huawei are trying to stack-smash their way into my phone. But I think GrapheneOS's elevated security is useful against criminal gangs. I think the best way to keep Meta off my device is to not run their software on my device.

DeletedUser495

raccoondad I suspect my rant was caused by another VPN ban. Managed to address it.

In regards to what you said, the service is free so can't talk about piracy, if you pay in any way, it's with your data and usage habits which you already know

raccoondad

DeletedUser495 the service isn't free, YouTube is ad based with a subscription that's about $10 to remove it.

DeletedUser495

raccoondad yes, you are right, service is free and to remove negligible part of the tracking (or none?) you have to pay. Thanks, I will stick with my non-fiction reading.

thmf

raccoondad It's not ad that's disgusting, it's tracking. And unfortunately you can't disable it by paying for the service.

raccoondad

thmf I'm just referencing the fact that YouTube isn't banning video pirating over analytics, because most of that information is still given to YouTube, but over ads, as most 3rd party YouTube clients only take the actual video stream without the ads.

This is why YouTube cracks down on 3rd party clients, because they are effectively pirating applications. Analytics are secondary to that, and 3rd party clients only effect one of them.

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