Why People in this forum (and probably grapheneos) don't like 5g?

TopDshe

As I mentioned, when the feature was released there was no 5G possibility.
We would be interested in having a 5G only option, but would also keep he 4G/LTE only option available.

The development team always has much to do and this is not currently high on the list of priorities as LTE/4G only already provides a reduced attack surface option.

Since GrapheneOS added that feature AOSP introduced the ability to disable 2G networking which provides another option to reduce cellular network attack surface for people who dont want to use LTE only option.

TopDshe My experience has also been that, at least in some places, 5G is substantially faster than any of the other options. I can often get nearly 500 mbps over 5G, and that is much faster than I recall ever getting on 4G/LTE.

TopDshe can you provide a link to a list with the vulnerability's and general weaknisses of the cell network?

Theres huge complexity to how cell phone networks work many different protocols for how cell towers talk to phones 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G + more. Then theres the protocols that are used to route the calls & SMS from the tower onwards across different, sometimes very old, networks to their destination. Different network providers can have very different set ups. Theres various places there can be problems.

One set of protocols thats used everywhere, has attracted a lot of attention and still gives cause for concern - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signalling_System_No._7

Just try to search 5G SA, 5G NSA, VoNR.
Not good for battery 5G NSA.
True 5G SA with VoNR is extremely rare outside Asia region.

spammerofspam if i will see VoNR, i will switch to NR-only mode immediately))
Sure, some top-tier carriers has true 5G. No one carrier with VoNR in Canada or Mexico. In USA one or two has it.

If I've understood correctly, to reduce the attack surface, it's better to choose 4G only rather than 5G (recommended) for your preferred network type?

GrapheneOS Only the 5G option is not suitable, as 5G in many parts of China is turned off at night to save electricity costs.

DeletedUser64

DeletedUser64 Might be worth a one time look at your cell network?

I checked it now and the 5g in my area is fake. Privacy Cell tells me it's "LTE - 4G"
On internet Speed test i get between 5-20Mbps doenload speed and a ping about 29-70ms

This is the normal speed i am used to.
But nothing compared to what i saw in the 5g speed test i saw once.
And it is no real 5g after all as the app privacy cell tell's me. The 5G icon on the status bar seems just like false information to me. I think i'm done with 5G for now. Mabe later. With a big mabe because my country hates technology and internet and progession in general.