ekasprzak hey, what do you mean "And I just tried that on my aonther Android phone (Xperia with stock Android) - it just worked, no issues."

what model it was and what stock android?

    mgeo what bank let you do a transfer to confirm?

    Many banks in Italy do, for instance ING.

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        fph I see, I think I heard ING before to have an NFC payment app. do they still have it?

            mgeo I heard ING before to have an NFC payment app. do they still have it?

            Not that I know. Unfortunately all banks in Italy seem to be happy with relying on Google Pay; none that I know have their own NFC payment app. Or, at least, none that you can use at a standard POS terminal; some have their own proprietary ecosystems (which are not very widespread).

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              mgeo No they don't. I literally just switched to ING and this is how I came to this topic. I also emailed their support and got the expected answer of "we don't have any additional payment solutions at the moment, but are always checking about introducing new payment methods". Although I was also told that if they introduce anything like their own NFC payment app, I'd be informed.

                  4 months later
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                  I really understand everyone who has posted here, looking for a method to make NFC payments. I came here hoping to find something that would allow me to do so. But after reading some posts here and in other threads on the subject, I realize that people, in general, don't really know what we want. There is no NFC payment app that doesn't collect your data. And there are quite a few people who use those apps and, at the same time, GrapheneOS. It's something I don't quite understand. I'm on GrapheneOS to safeguard my personal data as much as possible. If I don't mind giving my personal data to an app that collects and shares it so I can make NFC payments, why don't you just reinstall the original operating system on your Pixel? You'll have an absolutely flawless system that allows you to do all of those things that GrapheneOS can't.

                    Gasuky this is true. Maybe Proton company do an NFC app (see Proton Wallet) at some point but requires a license. But all banking apps don't collect data from users?

                      Gasuky a willingness to share the data with a Chinese company that is banned for security issues and risks by western gvmts re network equipment is another thing I don't understand in the thread.

                          I just had a genius idea,
                          i'll put some cash into my phone case.

                          This will actually solve my problem i would normally solve with NFC payment:
                          we go for a walk with my daughter and she wants ice cream and my physical wallet is at home

                            andrej567 personally I thought of putting my contactless debit card into the phone silicone's cover
                            and try to use it onto a terminal but I don't really go to the stores myself so I don't know if it's going to work

                                mmobder Curve and Quicko wallet aren't chinese companies. The links only provide the .apk files for those apps. They have the huawei.com in the links because it's direct links from the Huawei AppGallery

                                    mgeo doable but better disable cellphone nfc, in case it would interfere

                                        andrej567 I see. I also came accross those apps when I was trying to simulate the bank card (which you can't cause of some security). Is it any useful for copying hotel card keys and simulate them with your phone? I mean I haven't found any app that you can do that

                                            mgeo That mifare app is good to scan the rfid thing and
                                            then you can use the log and use it for writing from pc to make a copy.

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                                                mgeo Curve and Quicko wallet aren't chinese companies

                                                I hasn't started they are, it was more about distribution channel which is Huawei in that case.
                                                None of two distribute apks with accompanying signatures from their official websites (at least I wasn't able to find one). Thus you either choose Google Play store or Huawei store as a source of an apk. Aurora is at least open and transparent front end.