hello everyone,
I want to give my iPhone 8 and go with a (new condition with guaranteed) pixel 4 for 220€
But I have seen the last update was in October…
So it’s a good deal to buy it and switch to grapheneOs ?
It’s going to be secured without new updates ?
(Sorry I don’t know a lot about android)
I want to buy a Pixel 4
I'd check out two links to answer your question:
https://endoflife.date/pixel - Says Pixel 4 guaranteed software updates end October 31, 2022.
https://grapheneos.org/faq#legacy-devices
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Thank you, so if I take the 4a, in November 2023 I’m going to keep running grapheneOs with no update or it’s completely obsolete ?
(Sorry I’m a real beginner in android)
November 2023? Are you talking about Pixel 4a?
Either way, people on this forum and mods always make the same argument, which I think is a very good one: spending more on a newer version, especially Pixel 6 or later (guaranteed 5 years after release date), means you get more use for your money since they're guaranteed to be updated for longer. More bang for your buck as they say.
But if you were to get the 4/4a, it'll work past the end of life date, it just won't get any operating system updates, which is not safe from a security standpoint and renders it obsolete.
There are two ways of looking at this. Yes you get more support time with a newer device. BUT: A pixel 4a will cost around £120 whereas a 6 or 7 will cost £350-£400 in shops such as entertainment exchange in the UK.. That is a damn sight more money to shell out. Plus the 6 and 7's haven't even got a headphone jack on them! Dumb move by Google!
By the time the 4a is useless you will be able to pick up a cheap 7 if you really want one.
If you get the 4a, I’m not sure there is much point in using GrapheneOS.
Blastoidea @Dumdum I am getting a 4a because it's one of the last "small" phones with a headphone jack and I need both of these things. I'm also probably going to install Graphene because I care about privacy and don't want to have any Google tracking. If I used lineage, I understand that after every update I would have to do some extra steps (change DNS, captive portal, NTP, and SUPL servers as well as system WebView as outlined here). This seems unecessary with graphene as these things appear to already be the default.
Even though I might get updates longer with lineage, as I understand, these would only be updates to the higher level "lineage part" of the OS and not the OEM part by Google part that is responsible for security fixes on a lower level -- similar to the harm reduction support by Graphene. Now I don't really about functionality updates that much. I just want a private device that works and is somewhat secure. So if I get a few updates less because I use graphene but have less hassle staying private and potentially also have more privacy by default with graphene, I think graphene looks better to me right now.
I realize that graphene devs recommend against getting a phone with ending OEM support but since I really want a small phone with a headphone jack that is reasonably new, I think it's my best option. I feel like the security concerns for using a phone that doesn't get security updates anymore are not that big of a deal if I don't install any unsafe apps.
What are your thoughts about this? Please feel free to correct me, I'm just getting into this stuff again.
Getting a pixel 4 might have its justifications "if you understand what the pros and cons are". However getting it for 220£ as you mentioned I think is kind of a bad deal.
Have a look at ebay for some 6a deals as a point of comparison. Even with the shipping to your location you might get way better deals. Also ebay is trustable as long as you take a look at the seller's history.
Same goes for pixel 6 or pixel 7 deals. Have a look at ebay.
In the end when looking at all the pros and cons you might find that getting a brand new model from ebay might be a better deal.
The headphone jack can be remedied with a 10$ dongle, although it will occupy your usb port.