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Goldtop57 Is Google Calendar better in this regard?
Likely not. Makes more sense to use an encrypted calendar instead, but obviously since you want to access Google Calendar, then the best would be to stick with Google.
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Have you tried using the currently up-to-date version?If that still does not work, you can try exporting messages with Fossify Messages instead.
Goldtop57 I think you would be better off just using the Google Calendar app. Digical seems to share data with over 140 providers and 67 partners, I wouldn't be comfortable with 207 entities knowing my appointments and events.
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Goldtop57 I saw that Thunderbird is available as beta - for testers. Is that stable, or should I use a K9 version that is older but more stable?
I have Thunderbird working smoothly since beta test became available. meanwhile K-9 Mail continues to work as well.
Goldtop57 Will navigation work when geolocation is routed to the OS?
Yes.
Some people do run into issues getting navigation to work in various apps, but that shouldn't be one of them.
Goldtop57 Battery optimization means to toggle "stopping the app when unused" to off, - right?
No. That setting has nothing to do with battery optimization.
The setting you want is App battery usage > Allow background usage (click on that text) > Unrestricted
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To what degree is your wife interested in changing the way she handles her digital life? The answer to that question will heavily weigh in on the setup deployed. If she's not all that invested the play store route is totally fine, that way you avoid unexpected outcomes like apps behaving differently than normal, etc. Things can always be moved around if she grows more keen as time goes on.
Hello and welcome aboard.
1: Using Google (overall) and google apps wouldn't compromise the GOS security but will definitely compromise your anonymity.
If you install gservices and login to play store (any other gapp) with your previous email you will be identified and tracked by google as on any other device.
2: Google apps running in owner profile aren't sandboxes as such. But if you create and use google services and google apps in a separate profile, you can achieve some degree of sandboxing functionality.3: It depends, in my personal case, I never let my GOS device to even smell google, meta, MS etc crape. There are fantastic FOSS alternatives out there.
That being said, your choices will mainly depend on your threat perception and the purpose. On a side note, play around with your phone for a week without Google, try different apps and services. At the end when you are comfortable, do a factory reset and start clean.
Good luck.Hello, glad to see you are trying GrapheneOS. Signing into a Google account won't compromise security at all, it will just result in some loss in privacy, since you will no longer be semi-anonymous to Google. As far as I'm aware, Gmail works just fine. If it doesn't, you can always try K9-Mail/Thunderbird. In regards to push notifications, if you have Google Play Services installed before them, with the battery optimization exception granted, push notifications should work for every app out of the box, no need to grant a battery optimization exception. That last tip is mostly for people who don't install Sandboxed Google Play.
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Goldtop57 will those apps also be sandboxed like Playstore itself?
Apps are always sandboxed in Android (with the addition of GPlay itself in Graphene).
If Gmail is an issue, which Email app would you recommend?
Issue in what way? Privacy? You can use recommended private email providers. Email clients such as K9-Mail / Thunderbird and Fairemail can be used for the providers they support.
Is there any real need for Playstore? Since I didn't log in to Google yet, I installed the apps so far from Aurora Store, which worked just fine.
Play Store is more secure than Aurora. Aurora is typically only really useful for devices that are completely free of and Google services. If you have Gservices on your device, its recommended to just use Google Play.
Did I get it right that each messenger needs to be set to unrestricted battery usage?
I think you do if you aren't using GPlay for Push, otherwise not at all. See official documentation below.
https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play-installationYou should give a battery optimization exception to Google Play services for features like push notifications to work properly in the background. It isn't needed for the other 2 apps.
FYI: There is a "minor issue" when using the camera app designed for pixels by google - you can't enter the gallery from the camera app. (but the photos via the galllery app)
The pixel cam. app seems to be hard-coded to open the google "photos" app - it won't open your default gallery!
Instead you get an error-message "Photos required" You can't change (as far i see)This is just an inconvenience since the taken images will still be able to be viewed etc by the (set) default gallery.
It basically just makes the sharing and checking of the image bit slowerGoldtop57 if not, can I install gcam in a sandbox?
if not, can I install google's camera apk in a sandbox?
What do you mean "sandbox"? All apps are sandboxed (including Google Play). Do you mean in an isolated user profile?
if GrapheneOS is easy to install
Yes. Process takes 15-20minutes and is very easy to follow as per instructions.
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Goldtop57 A general question is, if GrapheneOS is easy to install. I am currently running /e on an older Redmi Note 8T, and that was a pain in the butt to install. If possible, I'd like to avoid having to do that again...
impossible! GOS is only made for Pixel (Hardware) and 'can't' be installed on other devices.
But on those it is easy to install :)Goldtop57 can I expect full camera support from the current GrapheneOS? That is, resolution, zooming capabilities, support of all three cams?
GOS supports their own camera app. Yes & No. You will have those features. But might not archive the level of quality you get with the "Pixel camera"- App - https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/15422-p8-vs-p8a/13 here I showed a comparison
Goldtop57 if not, can I install gcam in a sandbox?
if not, can I install google's camera apk in a sandbox?
Sandboxing shouldn't be needed - just don't give net work permission.
The app works fine without additional google servicesCheers! and choo choo!
- In P8 vs P8a
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ticklemyIP I did a "quick and dirty" just for you
Here for comparison:
GOS
Google PixelYou can clearly see how GOS has less sharpening and focus. The bokeh seems also more aggressive with GOS, details get way faster blurry when zoomed in. The cropping/framing is slightly different
How I did this:
choose object (choo choo choo!)
Place phone on a flat, heightened surface.
Place object below it
Take a photo with each app, both no zoom, 4:3 - DON'T move le device or object The app stops crashing if i disable "pause app activity if unused"
Weird this was never a problem before
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I switched over to Google Camera but have network and location blocked in the app settings. Also no Google Play Services in this profile and it works fine.
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That's how it works for me:
- Switch to Night Sight mode
- Point the camera at the sky
- Important: The app only offers astrophotography mode when the camera is held absolutely steady. Even better: Place your device on an (improvised) tripod.
- camera app gives a pop-up message: "Stabilize phone for astrophotography."
- If the camera is continued holding still, the shutter button symbol changes from moon to stars and astrophotography is possible.
My setup:
Pixel 8 Pro
Build: 2024040900
sandboxed Google Play installed
Pixel Camera: version 9.3.160.621982096.22
App installed via Play Store
App permissions: camera, microphone, sensors
