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Google only prohibits preloading Google Play and other components like Google Services Framework, Google Play Store, Google Backup Transport, Market Feedback Agent, etc. Google does not prohibit from non-certified OS vendors from letting users install Google Play and other components on their own.

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And again we're back on about Google Play Services. Does life go on without them? Course it does, for me it does. Please stop being slaves to your own convenience. There are alternatives to everything - almost :)

    [deleted] And again we're back on about Google Play Services.

    I think it's OK for people to discuss Google Play Services in a thread titled "Google Play Services".

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      de0u you know what I am talking about and that is a principle that GOS does not just come prebundled with Google Play Services but also in not so long past was on the internet one of the favourite recommendations on how to de-Google your phone.

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      [deleted] This forum is not the place to troll people for using Google Play.

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        [deleted] I said what I wished to say and the rest is up to the reader. So please stop trolling me back.

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          [deleted] So please stop trolling me back.

          No one is trolling you.

          Oggyo good counterfactual question. Thanks for raising these points

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          Me, as a reader share your thoughts, and if we keep depending on Google, app developers never add missing futures like "push notifications" for example because Google do for them.

          Google Sandbox is a powerful and great option, but why not use it short time in search of not Google depending apps so you are 100% De-Google?!

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            88dotorg app developers never add missing futures like "push notifications"

            They mostly do, but via Firebase, Which uses Google Play services

            88dotorg Google Sandbox is a powerful and great option, but why not use it short time in search of not Google depending apps so you are 100% De-Google?!

            You can't expect people to abandon Important apps like the ones used for Work (e.g. Microsoft Office and Google Meet), Banking, Govt-related services, etc. just because those apps use Google Play services for some functionality.