Google Play Services

darts125

Has the GrapheneOS project ever run into any legal issues with Google because Play services, GApps, and the Play store is offered? I know Google can be super protective of these services

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darts125 This was already to a degree addressed here (timestamp included) and elsewhere in Matrix rooms when the compatibility layer was new. I think I remember reading they even ran it by Google (but don't quote me on that).

Also in their whitepaper describing The Android Platform Security Model, authors even publicly acknowledge that approaches like microG exists and people use it, but that it "may not be complete or behave differently". GrapheneOS on the other hand includes a compatibility layer to use the official unmodified releases of Google Play as sandboxed apps and their app repo just has mirrors of those to make sandboxed Google Play easy to install.

Oggyo

On a side note - why Google should have legal issues with Graphene OS? Graphene provides a way to install an unmodified/official version of Google Play Services where you can use your official, personal Google account - https://grapheneos.org/features#sandboxed-google-play.
By default, the OS is shipped with no store app and doesn't imply any such, inc. 3rd party ones that can have any violations with Google terms and conditions, e.g. Aurora Store.

darts125

Oggyo good counterfactual question. Thanks for raising these points

darts125

[deleted] Thanks for this info. Extremely helpful

router99

I think the percentage of users on Android using GOS is so low, relative to users who don't use it, that they don't really care.

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Google only prohibits preloading Google Play and other components like Google Services Framework, Google Play Store, Google Backup Transport, Market Feedback Agent, etc. Google does not prohibit from non-certified OS vendors from letting users install Google Play and other components on their own.

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And again we're back on about Google Play Services. Does life go on without them? Course it does, for me it does. Please stop being slaves to your own convenience. There are alternatives to everything - almost :)

de0u

[deleted] And again we're back on about Google Play Services.

I think it's OK for people to discuss Google Play Services in a thread titled "Google Play Services".

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[deleted] This forum is not the place to troll people for using Google Play.

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de0u you know what I am talking about and that is a principle that GOS does not just come prebundled with Google Play Services but also in not so long past was on the internet one of the favourite recommendations on how to de-Google your phone.

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[deleted] I said what I wished to say and the rest is up to the reader. So please stop trolling me back.

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[deleted] So please stop trolling me back.

No one is trolling you.

88dotorg

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Me, as a reader share your thoughts, and if we keep depending on Google, app developers never add missing futures like "push notifications" for example because Google do for them.

Google Sandbox is a powerful and great option, but why not use it short time in search of not Google depending apps so you are 100% De-Google?!

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88dotorg app developers never add missing futures like "push notifications"

They mostly do, but via Firebase, Which uses Google Play services

88dotorg Google Sandbox is a powerful and great option, but why not use it short time in search of not Google depending apps so you are 100% De-Google?!

You can't expect people to abandon Important apps like the ones used for Work (e.g. Microsoft Office and Google Meet), Banking, Govt-related services, etc. just because those apps use Google Play services for some functionality.