Call Recording suggestion

fromTom

Hello, please is it realistic (and beneficial for more people than just me) to add the following option to call recording regarding starting of recording:

the recording is switched on manually (current state), OR
the recording is switched on automatically for all incoming/outgoing calls, OR
the recording is switched on automatically for all calls from/to numbers not in the contact list
Thank you.

Titan_M2

GrapheneOS is focused on privacy and security features, so developers probably won't add these specific features except for default call recording.

csis01

There is already a feature request and code sample on git for automatic universal call recording. That would satisfy your point (2), which is likely as far as it would go.

fromTom

Thank you for your both replies!

My suggestion is not based on boredom or mere whim, but on my personal situation. I have recently been the target of unpleasant phone calls (coming exclusivelly from unknown numbers - that is why I suggested that specific option) of a business or other (much more serious) nature, and the call recording is often the only conclusive material for further (e.g. legal) action.

In this sense, from my point of view, it is a broader (less technical) concept of 'security and privacy' and it is for this reason that I have decided to ask a question about a possible extension of the functionality of call recording.

Thank you for your understanding.

Blastoidea

fromTom
Is it possible for you to just not answer calls from unknown numbers?

This would short circuit the whole problem.

Presuming that you answer and record them, what do you intend to do with the recordings?

treequell

There's an open request for such a feature on GitHub: https://github.com/GrapheneOS/os-issue-tracker/issues/2083.

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You can use a third-party Dialer app.

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[deleted] To accomplish what?

treequell

[deleted] I'm not sure that you'll be able to use any call recording in third-party dialer apps on GrapheneOS.

csis01

[deleted] 3rd party dialer application cannot access the permissions necessary in order to make call recording work. The reason it can work in the integrated dialer is because it is a privileged system application.

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[deleted] Read Original poster's first post.

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[deleted] I did read it but third party apps can't do call recording.

Graphite

treequell m not sure that you'll be able to use any call recording in third-party dialer apps on GrapheneOS.

[deleted] third party apps can't do call recording.

They can. It's just that they can only record from the microphone so the call must be on speakerphone to have usable audio recording of the call.
ACR w/APH is one such app that has the auto call recording features the OP asked about.

fromTom

Blastoidea
Thank you for your ideas.
My situation is that not all unknown numbers (by 'unknown number' I mean a number that is not in my contact list) are malicious (some are, some are not). If I didn't answer all calls from numbers outside my contact list, I might miss an important call, which I can't afford to do.
If it is a problematic call which I would answer and record, I will copy the recording to another location and use them as the basis for a complaint or a legal action.

As I am thinking about it more with regard to my workflow, I would be perfectly happy with the option mentioned above (to be able to record all calls automatically) as I have no problem deleting trouble-free call recordings on a regular basis.

csis01

fromTom I have no problem deleting trouble-free call recordings on a regular basis.

It also wouldn't be at all difficult to write a program that could automatically go in and delete recordings based on a pattern you define. So the call would be recorded initially, but then automatically deleted.

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Graphite

csis01 automatically go in and delete recordings based on a pattern you define.

I don't want to promote, but ACR has this feature. Auto delete of X days old and/or shorter than X seconds.

csis01 3rd party dialer application cannot access the permissions necessary in order to make call recording work.

*Only for recording the in-call audio stream directly.

@fromTom
Do you absolutely need high quality recording from the in-call audio stream? Do you really need to record the calls without speakerphone (phone up to your ear)?
Or can you settle for an app that automatically turns on speakerphone, starts recording from the microphone stream, and auto deletes all based on your custom options?

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csis01 I didn't know that, Thanks.

csis01

Graphite I don't want to promote, but ACR has this feature. Auto delete of X days old and/or shorter than X seconds.

I don't know what "ACR" is, but its not relevant, since we are talking about the in-built call recorder.

f13a-6c3a

csis01 I don't know what "ACR" is, but its not relevant, since we are talking about the in-built call recorder.

Do a simple search for "ACR Android"

csis01

f13a-6c3a I really don't CARE what it is.