New manufacturer — theories and predictions

Ilgar

I'd love to see ips display without pwm flickering and dithering (mini-led) at least for grapheneos tablet.

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How will selling a phone with GrapheneOS be worthwhile for a major OEM? They can't put their spyware/adware/ licensed proprietary third-party apps on the phone, so they'd lose some revenue because of it. And the user base for this OS is pretty small.

https://nitter.net/OvertonBrawling/status/1986535697348460743#m

23Sha-ger

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e How will selling a phone with GrapheneOS be worthwhile for a major OEM?

This will be a regular phone that will be also sold with their stock OS as already said by the official channels many times. Just with some extra requirements like secure element etc.

VEECCdYKYi

I'm guessing Motorola. That would be great.
GrapheneOS weakest point is being soley reliant on one manufacturer.

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VEECCdYKYi Also being stubborn and refusing to lower their standards thus excluding any other devices :( I'd be happy with a GrapheneOS Lite as well.

GrouchyGrape

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e sure, because GrapheneOS should be associated with an illusion of privacy and security... /s

If you want that illusion, there are plenty of other OS's/ROM's you can play with. The very reason I use GOS is because of their "stubbornness". Have you read through their requirements? There's no reason every manufacturer shouldn't meet them, but there's very little incentive for them to at the moment.

VEECCdYKYi

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e I don't agree but I do find it a bit weird that there hasn't been a project fork of GrapheneOS for more devices, lesser security standard but would benefit from an other of GrapheneOS improvements over stock.

Blastoidea

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That defeats the whole purpose.

A half-assed GOS is not anything I would even consider.

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e

GrouchyGrape If you want that illusion, there are plenty of other OS's/ROM's you can play with.

I will when it's time to choose my next device. It will highly likely be a Pinephone unless the supposed GOS OEM partner offers a device with removable battery.

gta3

Its Nokia, they are trying to make a comeback

KCne

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e There still will be privacy while security against LE may not be relevant depending on use case.

Security enforces privacy. That’s why GrapheneOS is one of the most private OSs for consumers, it is secure enough to protect against many different types of vulnerabilities that protect against invasion of privacy.

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e Pinephone

https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1985545689351536978#m

PinePhone has bottom of the barrel hardware with horrible security, performance and functionality. It's far from meeting our hardware security requirements grapheneos.org/faq#future-de…). The desktop software is also a huge regression for privacy and security (xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1985…).

DeletedUser499

VEECCdYKYi hasn't been a project fork of GrapheneOS for more devices, lesser security standard but would benefit from an other of GrapheneOS

"Lesser security standard" means not secure.
Its either secure or not, do it properly or not at all...

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DeletedUser499 Not all use cases require exceptional security.

VEECCdYKYi

DeletedUser499
If that's the case, nothing is secure. Everything is hackable. Would a Samsung device be less secure with a GrapheneOS fork installed. It would probably be same as stock OS. The security of stock OSes are obviously enough secure for people to use them.

NetRunner88

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Should be

Look at all the personal informations leaks everywhere ..

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e

NetRunner88 There still will be privacy while security against LE may not be relevant depending on use case.

VEECCdYKYi

NetRunner88 the personal dataleaks are probably not because of Android based is, more servers. The problem as I see it is more that the databases store the data in the first place.

DeletedUser499

VEECCdYKYi If that's the case, nothing is secure. Everything is hackable.

Given time, your quote may be correct, however at present, there is one very obvious caveat to your quote, and its installed in my phone, thankfully.

NetRunner88

VEECCdYKYi
You missed the point.
Security should be at all levels.

DrJack60

Very disappointed when I got to the part about no 3.5mm audio jack. This is a CRYING SHAME! Realize that the same concerns about RF next to your brain (holding your phone at your ear is a bad thing), inserting tiny RF transmitters into your ears seems sketchy as well. For music purposes, Bluetooth is crap anyway. Wired IEMs for $20 can offer amazingly accurate reproduction, but frequently using a USB adapter has gradually degraded the USB port on my Pixel 7.

LG built amazing phones with their Quad DAC' configuration, I bought used phones simply for music players. The ability to add a micro SD card is ALSO something nobody has anymore. Neither of these should be THAT expensive to. Implement (an outstandingly accurate USB DAC can cost a few dollars retail!), PLEASE consider this!

Seriously: while I understand that manufacturers love to upcharge dramatically for more memory (& so don't have a microSD slot), what is the issue about a simple DAC & headphone jack?

ryrona

DrJack60 but frequently using a USB adapter has gradually degraded the USB port on my Pixel 7.

Yeah, honestly I have been very disappointed with the quality of the USB-C port on my phone. I also bought a USB-to-headphone adapter, and it worked kind of well in the beginning, but I rarely get any data connection at all anymore, and if I do, I need to sit absolutely still, the slightest movement will cause it to drop again. At least charging still works, I just need to turn the phone a few times and hope it aligns so it connects. I never had any issues with regular headphone ports on any device ever. Now I just play audio with the speaker all the time.

andrej567

once there would be such cellphone, I assume the damn attestations would then pass, there would be no reason to buy pixel anymore.

Viewpoint0232

andrej567 assume the damn attestations would then pass,

only with the stock ROM, not with GrapheneOS

and even if GrapheneOS came preinstalled, they'd have to also preinstall Play Store, Play Services and all the other Google junk (Chrome, Drive, Gemini, ...) in order to get "certified" for Play Integrity...

andrej567

Viewpoint0232 ahh. ok. And the initial boot screen now - not using original OS - would it be still there? I guess there is nothing googlish loaded yet.

n3t_admin

ryrona it sounds like something like lint is stuck in your port.

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