What's the deal with releases on Accrescent?

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Ammako
Accrescent is still in alpha stage.

Ammako there's a new update now and Accrescent sees it, and I can click on Update, but after downloading, it sits there and does nothing no matter how long I let it sit.

This happens here also.

Ammako I want to like and use Accrescent but it just does not seem to be there yet.

I want to like it also. It is not there yet. I learned today again. Sunup update didn't work.

Ammako I don't know that you can necessarily rely on Obtainium to never break either.

I think they will not fail simultaneously. At least I hope so.

Ammako cherrypick the first two words

I' m not native english speaker. So my apology.

tumbord

r134a any update on this matzer?

xxx

Perhaps it helps some others too:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/19425-recommendation-how-to-use-accrescent-and-obtainium

lberrymage

Ammako

Either way there's a new update now and Accrescent sees it, and I can click on Update, but after downloading, it sits there and does nothing no matter how long I let it sit. It just refuses to install the new update. I want to like and use Accrescent but it just does not seem to be there yet.

Hey, Accrescent dev here. I think I know what causes this and should be able to push out a bug fix shortly. The update is technically working, but it's waiting for the app you're updating to be "not in use" before installing the update so that it doesn't kill an app you're actively using. Accrescent should probably wait like that for only auto updates, not manual ones. The update will still eventually install though, so this isn't a reliability issue.

I'm happy to answer any questions or see if I can help further.

lberrymage

The aforementioned bug should now be fixed in Accrescent 0.28.1.

Stewart

Joe-FastFeet The aim of Accrescent is to replace the Play Store in the medium to long term with a secure, reliable store that does not require users to create an account to download applications. Accrescent is essential, and it is fortunate that non-open source applications are available. The aim is to offer an alternative to the Play Store, not to F-Droid or Obtainium, and instead of criticising it, it would be better to support this project.

Joe-FastFeet

Stewart I will be happy to support the project as soon as it starts functioning properly, offering updates in a timely manner, and abandoning proprietary software.

Stewart

Joe-FastFeet No, but if you want open source and non-proprietary applications, there's F-Droid for that. You have to understand that Accrescent aims to be an alternative to the Play Store (open source and proprietary applications), not to F-Droid and Obtainium.

Joe-FastFeet

Stewart Alternative?.. With two dozen rarely updated apps?

Xtreix

Joe-FastFeet F-Droid and Google Play Store are available since 15 years and more, Accrescent is still very new on the scene and requires a lot of time and resources, this is the first time we have had a project that aims to become a serious, open-source alternative to the Google Play Store, you can help the Accrescent project by making a donation or contributing to the code, what do you hope to achieve by criticizing the project without reason ? As for the update issues, these were caused by unexpected bugs during migration to different servers and have since been fixed.

Stewart

Joe-FastFeet It's a new project, so what do you expect, millions of apps available right from launch? Beyond the apps, you have to secure and maintain the infrastructure and servers, document everything and be transparent, manage costs and other things we don't know about.
F-Droid and Obtainium are good, but ultimately they are limited because they only support open source applications, and we are forced to use the Play Store to use other applications (my Google account is only used for the Play Store). Accrescent is here to solve this problem.

Joe-FastFeet

Stewart Accrescent may be designed to solve this problem of yours, but so far it has not been able to solve it. It is for this reason that I will refrain from using it for the time being. But I wish you good luck in this.

Stewart

Joe-FastFeet You are mistaken — Accrescent wasn’t designed to solve my problem, but to address an issue raised by many users and developers regarding the Play Store. And as I’ve already said, Accrescent is still a young project — it’s only natural that there are few applications for now. F-Droid, which you praise so much, went through the same thing in its early days.
When the project eventually succeeds, in the medium or long term, in becoming a true alternative to the Play Store, I hope I won’t see you showing that ridiculous behavior of flipping your stance!

Joe-FastFeet

Stewart You might be surprised, but not only did I not praise the F-Droid, but I never even mentioned it.

Watermelon

Joe-FastFeet I decided to uninstall Accrescent and reinstall all the applications that I installed from it

You didn't have to do the latter. You could've just switched to updating them from another source one by one when they receive updates.

Dumdum

Watermelon
So long as the signing keys match.

Watermelon

Dumdum One of the advertised features of Accrescent is that it doesn't resign apps, and doesn't have access to the private signing keys of apps. So the apps are fully controlled by their developers, rather than Accrescent. That's why I wanted to point out that it wasn't necessary to uninstall them.

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