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Currently I use a rather antiquated lg v20 running lineage os and no google services. It's ailing and needs a replacement.

My main issue revolves around magisk. (I understand why it's not supported in Graphene, it breaks the security model etc I'm aware and this partly why I am planning to move to Graphene os.)

However being aware of this does not solve the following issue:
Currently all my apps are backed up via root with the app Neo Backup. I understand that graphene has its own backup system, but without root how am I to transfer my current backups to the new pixel? Sure some apps have a built in backup system but the majority do not. Is there an alternative method of transferring the data? Or is temporarily rooting graphene to transfer my data possible (I'm thinking it isn't). I do see seedvault on my Lineage install hidden away in the settings, would restoring a seedvault backup to graphene using this work?

other smaller things include

  • hosts based ad blocking (seems like there are alternatives and not the biggest deal)
  • installing from f-droid and aurora store with privileged extensions (again not the biggest deal if I have to manually install applications but any alternatives would be welcome)

Also another question, ik this is a bit of a meme but how is VoLTE / wifi / 5g on the 7 w/ Graphene? 3g services are shutting down in my area within the lifetime of this phone and obviously I need to be able to make calls. (I'm on Optus in Australia if that helps)

Thanks :)

    For adblocking you have most of the same options like you have on stock Android. You can either use systemwide blocking via an app, or use for example things like adguard public DNS.

    I don't have 5G, but VoLTE, WiFi Calling works fine without problems. Though it doesn't show HD voice calling, it seems to use it, because quality is very good and when calling someone it rings instantly.

    You can install apps from anywhere. If you install the play store from Google it's probably best to get apps from there. I use mostly the direct download from the publishers, if they offer that on their website. A good alternative if not using the play store is the Huawei app store, because all apps there run without Google and they will take care not having malicious apps in there because of their difficult market situation.

      Welcome to the Community [deleted]!
      Unfortunately no previously used root dependent methods will be compatible with GrapheneOS, as you have stated, your understanding of "temp rooting" is correct, any rooted GrapheneOS distribution cannot be considered secured/untampered or even GOS any longer which will be confirmed by Auditor and use/promotion of such methods would not be condoned here.

      Seedvault would be an option and is cross compatible between Lineage and GrapheneOS however Seedvault has not been well maintained and has veered greatly from the design work for it's roadmap since the initial concept was introduced.
      *Fun Fact: The concept of it was created by GrapheneOS back in 2016 and later initially implemented by one of GrapheneOS community members.
      This results in there not always being a consistent outcome in what is restored. I personally have used it alongside, again as you are aware (it's nice that you have a solid understanding) apps self contained backups between 3 different devices on GOS without issue for my use case.

      Then onto your other points:

      • Ad Blocking: was covered by MineralWater there are various alternate solutions that offer equally effective solutions.

      • App sources: GrapheneOS does not allow privileged extensions as these break the security model. Aurora is fine to use, using the Session Installer method. However it will require you checking back periodically to update apps installed by it. F-Droid is considered to be compromised in regards to security, succinctly outlined in this article by one of our moderators: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/f-droid-security-issues/
        We recommend firstly that you download apps directly from developers using GitHub where possible. You can then either add their release page link with .atom appended to it in your chosen feed reader app to alert of new release, or you can add the link to the Obtainium app https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium.
        We then advise the Play Store via our sandboxed play services compatibility layer https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play and our first party 'Apps' app repository client.
        Then Aurora and F-Droid using first party repos maintained by devs and a modern client like Neostore/Droid-ify.
        What you use beyond that is at your discretion and risk.

      A project worth keeping an eye on regards third party apps and a secure open source app store would be Accrescent which has just entered Alpha: https://accrescent.app/

      If you have any further questions or would like me to expand on anything I have said with further information please don't hesitate to ask.