Voice access, hey google, 1password integration

N3rdcub

I've managed to get this fully installed and I had to do a factory reset because I installed the Play services and everything wrong the first time. Second time around however, I was able to get pretty much everything installed, voice to type is fine with Google, however I can't get hey Google to work. It keeps recognizing my device is not compatible. As a result I'm unable to get voice access to work.

I am able to get one password to work, however it seems like it only works in 70% of apps? I can't get it to work in vanadium, and it's pretty hit or miss in some other apps. Coming from samsung, or even just other Android versions, I was able to do split screen or floating window. But I can't seem to find floating window, and split screen seems to render the application I'm inputting account information into hard to use or impossible. Has anybody managed to get the following three things to work fully?

unwat

N3rdcub I can't get hey Google to work

Hey Google works on stock because everything is installed as system apps, so they have more privileges that regular apps won't have, like listening to the microphone constantly. This won't work on GrapheneOS because they're installed as regular apps.

N3rdcub I am able to get one password to work, however it seems like it only works in 70% of apps?

I can't find a link for you, but I remember reading that this is caused by an upstream issue with Chromium, which affects Vanadium.

N3rdcub

unwat I understand this potentially and directly circumvent aspects of graphene, but Is there any way to run as admin or more integrated? I love the idea of selectively allowing but the all or nothing approach I'm not sure is for me with Google services regarding graphene. It seems if you use any GServices too tightly woven you're SoL on Graphene

unwat

N3rdcub Is there any way to run as admin or more integrated?

Android doesn't have a "run as admin" option like in Windows. Some permissions are just not allowed to be granted to non-system apps. I don't know what specific permissions Google Assistant requests since it's a closed-source app, so I don't know if it's possible to make it work by granting all of the permissions it requests.

I really hate to say "I don't know" so many times. I tried to figure it out by myself, but I ran into some issues.

N3rdcub It seems if you use any GServices too tightly woven you're SoL on Graphene

It depends on the app or feature. Google Assistant's "Hey Google" feature doesn't work, but Google Assistant works fine otherwise, or at least it worked for me last time I tried a couple of months ago.

N3rdcub

unwat Thank you for your assistance with this. You were able to provide information on hey google and my underlying questions.

I'm able to potentially forgo hey google, but correct me if I'm wrong but Voice Access is directly tied in/integrated with hey google and you can't have the Voice Access without Hey Google??

Voice Access would be the accessibility feature to control the entire device to a more fine tuned degree than hey google is able to provide.

unwat

N3rdcub

Sorry, I'm not sure since I've never tested Voice Access, but it looks like it's possible to use without OK Google. Looks like there's an option to press a floating button on your screen to activate it (under "Optional: Other ways to start Voice Access"). Since it's an app that uses accessibility services, it has some extra special privileges.

n3w6y

N3rdcub Works without any other Google services installed, but needs network access. Cheers

n3w6y

I have tried Dicio but it requires network access and is fairly limited (at least as an app if you're not a dev). I've looked around and can't get an install anywhere for Athena or Saphire which appear not to be in active development.

I've looked at Kalliope also, but this requires a server / service locally ... not the end of the world, but I don't have access to my personal server all the time. This is due to upload bandwidth constraints, so mostly I'm connected to the world via VPN over 4G or via the work network which is fast unless I need to access something on my LAN.

Google Voice Access doesn't require any Google services to run and works extremely well. It works without installing the 3 sandboxed services, but does require network access. They 'say' you are opted out of sending data for product improvement ... but, they aren't exactly a reliable witness.

Is this 'safe to run' ... or I'm defeating the purpose?

Note, happy to take advantage of Google if it makes sense.

Thanks.