missing-root I am waiting with moving from work profile to private space too. Its not about graphene os, i understand the feature arrived in android 15 and who knows how it will be improved further in general android....
for me it's not about private or not, i need a simple button to make a subset of apps to shut up in the evening, nothing more. If it could be sheduled, even better.
andrej567 tbh this could be implemented if the "disable user apps" feature was adapted to still show the app icons on the drawer and home screen.
Or if apps could have a mode where they really only spawn if you click on them, and immediately close when they are not in foreground.
missing-root Not wanting to open a discussion here, but work profile works without a management app afaik.
An app like shelter allows to install apps to another profile ...
Shelter is a device management app. That is why work profiles works if you have Shelter. Work profiles need a device management app, it is impossible to create or manage them otherwise.
ryrona the point is you dont need that "management". You can share files there with the share portal, configure settings in the settings app and toggle it on or off in the app drawer.
You can remove shelter after setting the profile up. It still works, I did that on my old phone.
I flashed my phone to use the stock Android. I couldn't find the Private Space feature. So I talked to the Google support. Here is the answer. The Pixel engineering team decided to remove the Private Space feature. As of now, no Pixel device using Android 14 and higher supports it, you reinstall your device, you lose the feature. I'm not sure what happens if you had activated and then update your device. They don't want to give any explanation, they can't provide an ETA for an update on this. I wasn't even given the answer to "are they working on re-enabling it".
Maybe related?
cybermattic interesting, if true i would be interested in the motivation behind this decission.
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Kudos - as always, of inestimable value these AOSP-additions are.
But there's one anti-feature for my personal use case currently:
I can't use private space in secondary profile(s).
If authorities force me to unlock my phone, they will get a complete fake identity - and since it's a company phone, the other profiles are staff profiles officially. So no leak of privacy. But unfortunately no private space either.
I'd love having the option to merge two of my profiles into one (w/ private space), but in my case this mustn't be id0.
It is sufficient for me to have one private space per phone, but it must be possible to run it in any secondary profile.
Is it technically possible to shift the parent profile for private space? Or to even allow multiple private spaces?
cybermattic I flashed my phone to use the stock Android. I couldn't find the Private Space feature. So I talked to the Google support. Here is the answer. The Pixel engineering team decided to remove the Private Space feature. As of now, no Pixel device using Android 14 and higher supports it, you reinstall your device, you lose the feature.
That makes no sense, since Private Space didn't exist in Android 14 (source).
I suspect trying again will result in a different answer.
GrapheneOS im not managing to create a work profile. How do I do it? It's not in the settings for me for some reason
de0u Maybe they meant from 14 excluded. But I ranted and (@r134a) tried with multiple approaches to get the reason why this decision, no luck. Long story short, I'm leaning toward getting rid off my Pixel 8, got a refund agreement. The customers accept too much bs from the companies nowadays. To me Pixel is no more than a test Android platform, I can't call that production ready. It's a fantastic hardware hosting a pile of 💩 on its application layer, either because of their Google mindset or because the third-party apps act with poor conscience (Revolut lately).
This button is still visible there the first time you make a private space, it still ended up being confusing as a first time user because it didn't do anything :P
cybermattic I flashed my phone to use the stock Android. I couldn't find the Private Space feature. So I talked to the Google support. Here is the answer. The Pixel engineering team decided to remove the Private Space feature.
That's not true. I flashed stock PixelOS Android 15 February 2025 patch on my Pixel 8 a few days ago, and the feature was there. It was also only introduced in Android 15. The Google support employee either didn't know what they're talking about, or you misunderstood what they were saying.
You probably flashed Android 14. Do a check for system updates.
[deleted] I just created the Private Space today and I have the same issue with build 2025021100 on Pixel 6. Every time the Private Space is unlocked all but the lower 5 GOS apps (Files, Gallery, Info, PDF Vie..., Vanadium) are invisible. Also the settings button is missing and the Lock button is only the icon (does not include the word Lock). If I enable and disable Hide Private Space... while it's unlocked, the apps become visible, the settings button returns and the lock button says Lock.
r134a Yes, I did. Thank you. Enabling it fixes that but slows interactions with the device such as unlocking the screen, opening apps, the auto closing of the recent items screen and locking the screen :(
kwikk Also have this setup (owner for app install only) and would welcome Private Space support in non-owner profiles.
@GrapheneOS would this be considered for the roadmap?
arg https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/19501-app-communication-scopes-status/10 My own interpretation from this post is that it could be considered (Either multiple private spaces in owner or private space in secondary profiles, not sure), but it probably heavily depends on how feasible it would be to implement from a developer perspective.
yore i feel like private space has con's (just from usability perspective) only. The vpn which should behave sandboxed from each other interfer/interact with each other. When i do something with vpn in private space, it's changing the vpn app's behavioir in owner profile. Private space settings menue are mixed with owner profile settings which is confusing and an adds unneccessary user mistake potential. It's all very complicated to handle and to ceep everything in sight. I can't just install avalable apps like in secondary user profiles. If private space has any benefits compared to user profiles, i can't see them. I tryed out private space a couple of times but i ended up just deleating it frustraded every time. With user profiles its so easy. i set it up and tap on the app's i want to use. I can update all installed apps from the owner profile and set up restrictions to the user profile. Easy peasy lemon squeesy.
So GrapheneOS deverlopers say they highly recommend private space over user profiles. I have a realy hard time to understand that statement. Mabe on a technical level, private space has better sandboxing which means better security,
(Which i also have ha hard time beleaving it because one of the first things i noticed was interference between vpn apps which is a sign for not goot seperation between the apps. It should not be possible.),
but at least to me, it don't seem to be worth it.
And i am no grandpa who strugles to use whatsapp (don't panic, i don't use whatsapp). I have no developer knoledge but from a user perspective i consider my skill to use a phone pretty decent. At least i have no problems, most times. (As far as i don't try tonunderstand any system apps behaviour or any development option).
But normallily i should not have any problems to master the private space feature like i mastered the user profiles feature.
So i blame the private space feature to be too complicated and too unfunctional.
But what do i know.
I'm just some noob
