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  • Has anybody else dreamed about GrapheneOS?

This might sound really weird but I've had dreams about my GrapheneOS phone. One dream I dropped my phone and the screen cracked, and another dream my phone flashed white and the text read "Your device has been corrupted." Lol I hope this isn't foreshadowing or something.

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    Clark Not with GrapheneOS but I think with my Linux system.

    If I remember right, I had a dream I ran a failed update or did something bad to it. When I woke up, I went straight to my computer and turned it on. You can imagine the sigh of relief I had when it booted :)

    Clark Lol I hope this isn't foreshadowing or something.

    You might have been thinking/worrying a lot about it, perhaps subconsciously. At least our phones are far more resilient and have A/B slots to fall back to.

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    Yes, I am having occasional nightmares about the AOSP icons in Settings -> Apps -> Show System Apps.

      AlanZ What kind? Like if they are malware?
      Cool new avatar by the way ^^

        I had a dream that Graphene OS took over from Google... and suddenly, my life was so CHANGE, even my toaster started asking for a password!

        Clark "Your device has been corrupted."

        This is your brain telling you to make backups

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        Rizzler
        No, but they are so hideously ugly, I dream of losing my eyesight just so I don't have to endure looking at them : )

          AlanZ The new ones as well or just the ones with the white cube?

            Rizzler The Calendar storage in particular, but many others too.

            I don't recall ever dreaming about any digital device or even interacting with any in dreams

            4 days later

            I recently dreamed that I lost my new Pixel 8 and feared someone could crack it T_T

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              Clueless if you have this type of dreams, you shouldn't store sensitive information on your mobile device and if you do, you should reasonably protect it. You shouln't store sensitive information on such device anyway. Use encrypted media, I don't trust cloud storages for risk of data breach.

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                [deleted] you shouldn't store sensitive information on your mobile device

                I don't, that's why it was such a weird dream. I have everything backed up to my NAS, there is almost nothing on my phone than regular apps.

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                Rizzler I agree with your statement, but it isn't invulnerable to network based attacks and potentially allows third party app data extraction and exfiiltration. In other words, running a plain GrapheneOS in airplane mode doesn't pose any issues but none of us uses it that way.

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                  [deleted] but it isn't invulnerable to network based attacks and potentially allows third party app data extraction and exfiiltration.

                  I'm not sure how that makes smartphones more vulnerable than desktop computers. Smartphones were designed with security in mind and with a mature foundation. If anything, desktop systems are more vulnerable to the example you provided.

                  The SELinux permission model is quite strong on Android compared to the weak/nonexistent model on desktop systems. There are also app sandboxes which as far as I know don't exist on desktop.

                  And there are many other reasons which I won't go into.

                  Your best bet to storing sensitive data is on an encrypted drive with the sole purpose of storage, or a user profile on the phone.

                  But bear in mind (I just saw this):

                  Carlos-Anso Its possible, though rare, for apps to elect to have keys in the HSM to encrypt their data. In this case the app could have the HSM keys destroyed or you could clear all storage for, or uninstall, the app and the data would be unrecoverable.

                  Rizzler I disagree. Its the most secure device you own.

                  Yes, and it's also one of the worst secured devices you own.

                  You're not likely leave your NAS in a coffee shop, drop it in a lake, have it stolen while you're carrying it around town, etc.

                    Probably9857 Yeah im sure the stupid thief would have a lockscreen bypass exploit before the phone goes back to BFU.

                      Rizzler
                      That wasn't really the point.

                      I agree with you that phones are (or at least can be) highly effective at keeping the data on them secure. But we're also very bad at securing the phone itself - just because of how phones are intended to be used. So only keeping your data on a phone is also a pretty bad idea.

                      That is all. The right tool for the right job.