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  • What features will be missing in GOS' Android 15 version?

Graphene1 from what I have read, android 15 source code has already been released

      pml just wondering when the official Pixel release is expected

      • gwr replied to this.

          Off Topic: Just a simple question from a new GOS user. New updates comes from OTA or we should update our OS manually using PC?

            Sirut Off Topic: Just a simple question from a new GOS user. New updates comes from OTA or we should update our OS manually using PC?

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              Sirut The operating system regularly checks for the availability of a new update and downloads it autonomously and transparently, which is why the operating system also makes regular connection checks, so you don't need your PC to update manually.

              The distribution channel is set to the stable channel by default, with the option of choosing the beta and alpha channels.

                gwr We need the official stable release with the current patch level rather than what is currently released. We've already ported to Android 15 and are testing it but it's waiting on them to do a proper release.

                    DeletedUser88 It's an AOSP feature and has been supported in GrapheneOS development builds enabling the Android 15 feature flags for months already. We already added Private Space integration for our sandboxed Google Play compatibility layer, Contact Scopes and Storage Scopes before the official Android 15 source code release this month.

                        GrapheneOS Awesome! Do you mean it will be possible to run sandboxed Play inside a private space, confined along with apps that need Play services, as a more convenient option than different profiles for users with lower threat models? Will there be a possibility to run a separate userspace VPN? Is it possible to have more than one private space?

                            GrapheneOS Will I be able to set a separate VPN in the private space just like a normal profile? I read from the official documentation that the Private Space bypasses any VPN that is set on the Owner profile.

                                I really would like to see secure face unlock, a convenience feature introduced already with P8. Unfortunately it hasn't found its way to GrapheneOS although there were some vague promises to look into. The Hardware to make it secure is there, but the software is missing on GOS. Later on this year it was stated that secure face unlock is interfering with 2FA unlock implementation although these are totally different topics. I don't want to be to negative, I like GOS, but this was a very disappointing decision by GOS Team since my wife uses this feature on her P8 with stock Android and loves this feature. She always is laughing that I am not able to use it.

                                Probably, secure face unlock isn't open source and must invented and written completely new and probably that's timewise and technically (know how) not possible, an I right?

                                  androidin Later on this year it was stated that secure face unlock is interfering with 2FA unlock implementation although these are totally different topics.

                                  The issue isn't about whether face-unlock hardware and fingerprint-unlock hardware are the same (they're not), or whether a user's face is the same as a user's finger (they're not). The issue is whether or not the code for face unlock and the code for PIN/passphrase unlock and the code for fingerprint unlock are interrelated, and my understanding is that the Android unlock code in general is a complicated interwoven carnival.

                                  androidin Probably, secure face unlock isn't open source and must invented and written completely new and probably that's timewise and technically (know how) not possible, an I right?

                                  I think the things that would be necessary are something like:

                                  • high-resolution IR face camera (clearly some Pixel devices have this)
                                  • face-recognition software core (online I read that this is closed-source and proprietary, though in theory an open-source alternative could be found or written)
                                  • integrating face-recognition software with the IR face camera ("a simple matter of programming")
                                  • sufficient testing (presumably including twins!) to believe it's reasonably secure

                                  I suspect if this were easy then some Android variants would already be doing it, especially ones with large user communities. Is this feature available on LineageOS, DivestOS, crDroid, etc.? If it's available on all of them except GrapheneOS, maybe it's easy-ish? If it's available on none of them maybe it isn't easy.

                                        de0u I think the things that would be necessary are something like:

                                        de0u

                                        • high-resolution IR face camera (clearly some Pixel devices have this)
                                        • face-recognition software core (online I read that this is closed-source and proprietary, though in theory an open-source alternative could be found or written)
                                        • integrating face-recognition software with the IR face camera ("a simple matter of programming")
                                        • sufficient testing (presumably including twins!) to believe it's reasonably secure

                                        well pixel has the hardware & i know some twins so in a certain sense we're already halfway there