Which of these phones provides more privacy and security:
Librem 5
Fairphone 4 MurenaOS
Pixel + GrapheneOS
Do you have any experience with either of these models?
Which of these phones provides more privacy and security:
Librem 5
Fairphone 4 MurenaOS
Pixel + GrapheneOS
Do you have any experience with either of these models?
Seeing as you're posting this on GrapheneOS's community forum, you know the obvious answer.
Ehm... If you check the GrapheneOS website and this forum you'll quickly see that...
I could add more things but will go to bed now. Probably others will fill out the blanks and help you with your questions, I'll be back tomorrow.
ErnestThornhill they could have posted this in all 3 communities, so it's not obvious (only after some research, because yes GrapheneOS is the obvious answer but it's not because of his choice of internet forum).
Wilflower
Here are 2 comments from GrapheneOS to follow what @N1b said:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7208-8y-security-updates-on-fairphone-5-will-the-devs-consider-porting-grapheneos/2
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7208-8y-security-updates-on-fairphone-5-will-the-devs-consider-porting-grapheneos/35
N1b only after some research, because yes GrapheneOS is the obvious answer
Yes. That's what I was basing my answer on: That they did their own research instead of relying solely on a stranger's answer.
recent Pixel with GrapheneOS with a HUGE margin, its not even a comparison.
updates are essential for security, and actively preventing updating a device means no security
no hardware secure element means no verified boot, no chain of trust for certificates, its as insecure as any PC.
Without strong Security there is no privacy. I am a happy owner of a Pixel 7 with GrapheneOS and it is a great experience for me. I would never get a new phone that is not able to run GrapheneOS. I would love to get a Pixel 9 for the hardware memory tagging, but my P7 is still too new to justify such an expense.
I am sure there will be others here on the forum to chime in on the topic, but from what I read so far since I started looking into GrapheneOS as an option (way before I got a pixel+Graphene) there are not many phones (if any) that can match a Pixel with GrapheneOS in terms of security.
(I hope I did not wrote anything wrong, if i did, corrections are welcome. )
Thank you so much for your time, helpful answers and detailed explanations. You dispelled all doubts!