other8026 changed the title to Best jurisdiction to challenge monopolization using Play Integrity .
Best jurisdiction to challenge monopolization using Play Integrity
I think the EU Digital Markets Act is a good starting point
https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/contact-dma-team_en
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Viewpoint0232 is that something for which an official long complaint needs to be lodged or something in which a short form filled online could alert regulators this is a problem?
Also would developers be upset if some random user complained that this is effectively covered by that because they are doing a backdoor "all apps must be play no side loading" technique to violate existing demands?
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notahuman the idea is that similar to "play store only" play Integrity api limits choice and demands google play in contravention of existing rehulations
I have no idea but I don't have the legal knowledge do to an "official" complaint. My only hope is that someone will read it and set things in motion.
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Viewpoint0232 it looks really easy to complain
unless someone says not to I'll contact them. this play integrity api shit stuff needs to stop
For this kind of thing, it would be a lot more effective to go on a personal level with a member of the European Parliament, rather than an impersonal form on an official website. You’ll get more involvement.
No need to use the legal jargon or to be too formal. Its their job to listen to their citizens and possible electors’ complaints, and translate them in a more administrative language.
Citizens of the European Union can find elected members from their country here: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/home
Of the 720 members of the European Parliament, a smaller number are part of the IMCO, the committee that voted in favour Digital Markets Act; they can be found here: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/imco/home/members
The key is to find a member who is openly anti-GAFAM for a greater chance of success, and to clearly explain the issue in your national language. Make it a national matter, or even a regional one.
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I tried to submit something but they said I had to pass a google spam catch a thing which mysteriously wouldn't show up
this is what I wrote, if anyone can help me get past the Turing test to submit this I'd be happy:
Hi I am a person who uses computers. that is not my real name or email as I don't like being tracked.
I prefer to use custom mobile operating system Roms because google has such bad privacy policies and lies so much.
I don't like google closed-source telemetry reporting on my choices and sold without consent either through deceit like fine print terms or just not even telling me.
Recently google has gotten even more evil with the integrity play api. All financial Apps and official apps use it, resulting in limited consumer choice. Much like Apple not allowing apps to be side loaded and requiring an apple store it hurts consumer choice in many ways.
Although google would say play integrity api makes things safer for consumers it means that users end up locked into the google ecosystem., since any custom ROM can't use financial Apps since Google wont allow other OSs that run Android Apps to use play integrity API. Most people can't afford many phones and plans and so people end up stuck with Apple or Google. Some developers made Operating systems with open source code so consumers know their data is safe. Some of these custom open source ROMs can run Android Apps but isn't Android and has no google software built in to monitor user behavior to sell ads. Some of these are just as safe as Google's Android Operating system but Google has no process to allow any custom OS to apply to be certified in Integrity API, they are just locked out. its unfair to consumers!
If Consumers can't run any of the important Apps they need except with Google Android and Apple iOS, how can consumers have a choice other than 2 US companies that don't publish their code, both of whom collect data in undisclosed ways and 1 of which harvests that data to sell many ads?
Please help the consumers! Please stop pLay Integrity API from ruining different options for consumers!
Here is an article:
Google claims it's about safety and preventing rooting but this is also about locking consumers into the google and apple ecosystems. there are OSes that don't have rooting but google won't provide integrity play api access.
also feel free to take out any incoherent or weird parts if you want to submit it for me.
I think it's a good text that sounds genuine! @leafnose posted this link here: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/imco/home/members where you can ctrl+F to find an MP from your country and then email one of them (there's an "email" icon when you click on their profile).
I personally signed with my real name but I want this guy to know that I'm a "real voter" but I'm not sure if it actually makes a difference
It seems like the GrapheneOS team are taking a public stsbce agsinst Google: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/112878070618462132
Big up to the team.
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Viewpoint0232 I think it is because you have strict tracker blocking activated. Try temporarily disabling it.
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I have received a response from the DMA email, but unfortunately it's a generic response without any action promised.
We thank you for your email of 2 August 2024 sharing your concerns regarding Alphabet’s DMA compliance, specifically as regards Google Play Integrity and the ability of open-source Android-based operating systems, such as GrapheneOS or LineageOS, to compete, and the information you provided in this respect.
The DMA defines a set of clear rules with which gatekeepers had to effectively comply by 7 March 2024. On 7 March 2024, the gatekeepers, including Alphabet, submitted their compliance reports which can be found here: Compliance reports.
The Commission is carefully assessing Alphabet’s compliance with the DMA, as well as any attempt of circumvention, taking due account of your input. Where necessary, we are ready to take decisive enforcement action making use of the full toolbox available under the DMA. More information on the regulatory and investigative powers of the Commission is available on the DMA website: DMA.
Thank you again for reaching out to us.
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Actually, it is not so generic, and it seems quite good for a response from a contact form. I would be surprised that they already have a response model for Google Play Integrity and GrapheneOS subjects.
It’s not really disappointing, it is just showing the limits of impersonal correspondence.
Thank you for this step!