GrapheneOS I wasn’t very clean sorry, I mean on the apple devices that Cellebrite can attempt to get in to. I’m weaning myself off of apple anyway. I will use the pixel as my main and I might invest in a pixel tablet to replace my iPad mini and sell that as it doesn’t get used rarely anymore.

      final rumour has it that future devices may not have a data port at all and just wirelessly charge then they couldn’t solder one on

          Stayjuice rumour has it that future devices may not have a data port at all and just wirelessly charge then they couldn’t solder one on

          "Rumor" indeed. That seems unlikely given the amount of work Google has been putting in on getting desktop environments to display over USB-C. I think it will be a while before it's feasible to transmit monitor-quality display output without a physical connection. I guess in theory UWB might do it, but I'm not aware of monitors supporting UWB input.

              de0u apple, they put in a patent and since the forensic software does apple as well as android having no data port will make things interesting

              • de0u replied to this.

                  Stayjuice apple, they put in a patent

                  Many things are patented but not shipped as products. So while a phone without any physical data ports is certainly a theoretical possibility the existence of a patent filing does not imply devices will ship any time soon.

                      de0u it doesn’t mean that it won’t not come anytime soon either 😉

                        My Pixel 6 was confiscated by the German police after a political rally. I was recently able to pick it up again. From an inquiry with my lawyer, the following emerged: The authorities tried to read the device with both UFED4PC and Cellebrite Premium Touch. In addition, software from other forensic providers was used without success. The software did not succeed in breaking the system. The device was in BFU mode and had a 30-digit PIN. USB port was deactivated. As of March 2025, I can therefore say that it is not possible for Cellebrite to break a secured GrapheneOS.

                          unrealnegan Very good news. I suggest to not bring your electronic devices to public rally next time to avoid seizure.

                          There is no democracy in our world, we have to defend ourselves against such abused situations. Google hardware and GrapheneOS code hardening is helping us to stop them.

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                            unrealnegan

                            Thanks for sharing. Is it even legal to try these things on a phone which you just ceased from a protestor?
                            And also for high threat model I suggest remote attestation verification just to make sure.

                                someone27281 The police like to connect the device to a Cellebrite device while you are giving fingerprints. I have also seen the police carry mobile Cellebrite devices. The police call a judge and he orders it. Unfortunately, this is legal for the police.